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 Posted: Mon Oct 7th, 2019 06:10 pm
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David A Cherry
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https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/atq/d/brookville-knapp-little-hustler-fan-kit/6994287404.html

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 Posted: Mon Oct 7th, 2019 07:35 pm
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Same seller has been trying to sell Coleman repo deflector cages on Ebay. He forced through Ebay a return of a Tank to a member here. He gave $476 for the knapp motor and now wants $300 for blade and cage through Craigslist.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 06:25 am
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So sad to see this parted out for profit of some sort.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 11:44 am
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Chris A. Campbell wrote: Same seller has been trying to sell Coleman repo deflector cages on Ebay. He forced through Ebay a return of a Tank to a member here. He gave $476 for the knapp motor and now wants $300 for blade and cage through Craigslist.
To protect our other members; could you share a link which will give additional info about the forced return of the fan?

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 07:15 pm
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David Allen wrote: Chris A. Campbell wrote: Same seller has been trying to sell Coleman repo deflector cages on Ebay. He forced through Ebay a return of a Tank to a member here. He gave $476 for the knapp motor and now wants $300 for blade and cage through Craigslist.
To protect our other members; could you share a link which will give additional info about the forced return of the fan?


Hey buys/ sells under Ebay IDs SprayRider and DonMoeMoe
Haven't looked at recent listing but on Ebay fails to mention they are completely reproductions


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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 07:21 pm
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Chris A. Campbell wrote: David Allen wrote: Chris A. Campbell wrote: Same seller has been trying to sell Coleman repo deflector cages on Ebay. He forced through Ebay a return of a Tank to a member here. He gave $476 for the knapp motor and now wants $300 for blade and cage through Craigslist.

To protect our other members; could you share a link which will give additional info about the forced return of the fan?





Hey buys/ sells under Ebay IDs SprayRider and DonMoeMoe

Haven't looked at recent listing but on Ebay fails to mention they are completely reproductions







Thanks. I did see a couple of them listed. Two similar listings with almost identical wording. One of them was an artificially inflated price listing. The other was a still unreasonable (for repop) which referenced his other inflated listing to trick the buyer into thinking it was a good deal.

Listing only says motor has been replaced and "some parts are new" nothing about the whole fan being reproduction.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 11:11 pm
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  It is clear to me that he is manufacturing and selling reproductions on both Ebay and craigslist of cages and blades that are made to fit the little hustler toy motors as well as some working coleman deflectors on ebay or as a kit, with some machining support on craigslist.  eBay charges 13%   As far as the forced return of a purchased fan, I don't see were a person can force anyone, if not happy they can return it if it was not as described thru ebay's buyer protection program. they must show proof that it is not as described and sold under false pretense... if the seller claimed that it was a real Coleman deflector, and you felt it was a reproduction then you can do the same thing through buyers protection. 
 It also seems obvious to me that the Coleman deflector being sold on ebay is not a real one by any stretch of the imagination ...  as far as the price that someone asked for something..that is capitalism.
   I for one am glad there are people out there willing to take the time to make this kind of stuff... I had a 67 Sunbeam Tiger and I needed ball joints ... I knew they were reproductions and I was tickled pink to get them.. just saying. 
 

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 11:19 pm
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Not regarding anything else, just reproduction parts: if it helps save a fan and bring it back to life, I don't see that as a bad thing.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 11:31 pm
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You can force a return on an item on ebay by simply claiming it is not as described. Ebay will not even offer you the seller an opportunity to dispute the claim. If you do not believe me then ask around. You can not even leave negative feedback for a buyer anymore. You have no idea who is a problem buyer and who is not. PayPal just put out notice that they will not reimburse you their fees on a returned item now so you will have to eat that too.Selling anything on ebay is a crapshoot now.
I had someone file a claim against me with  PayPal four months after an ebay sale claiming fraud and they held my money for almost a month before returning it.
I'm all in favor if having a deadbeat bidder thread on the forum where we can post the ebay member names of people who are.... "problematic"  :up:

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 Posted: Wed Oct 9th, 2019 12:58 am
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I think the tank return was because it was not 3 speeds. The listing said something like "good seperation of speeds." The buyer claimed it should have 3 speeds. There was no picture of the tag although that would not have mattered I think. EBay agreed...

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 Posted: Wed Oct 9th, 2019 01:56 am
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Many times I would prefer repo over original parts. It appears to be nicely made with true craftsmanship. Curious who is now making these. His Craigslist offering offers your choice of S/N but Ebay alludes to rarity and mentions parts possibly replaced on the fan, but fails to illustrate that is clearly fully reproduced guard which seems to push back against the rarity claim. Technically does say not OEM, but his example does to pertain to the true item for sale. Also curious how you fit a new “motor with thermal overload protection” into a stamped Westinghouse housing.

“This will probably be the ONLY CHANCE YOU WILL EVER HAVE TO OWN ONE OF THESE! You don't see them for sale .

The Deflector cage is 10 inches round.

This unit has had a beautiful restoration done on it by a professional in Cincinnati Ohio. Not all parts are original. Example: the electric motor has been replaced with a brand new electric motor with thermal overload protection, unlike the old original motor that had no thermal protection at all- It should run long and strong for a great while. Other components have been replaced in the restoration. No claim of 100% O.E.M. authenticity is being made.

This is more of an Art Deco item instead of a fan you would run continuously to cool your home.

In the pictures is a copy of of the original Walter Coleman's Patent.

Unit will be overpacked with lots of bubble wrap and double wall boxed.

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