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 Posted: Fri Oct 11th, 2019 03:12 am
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Peter Buffo
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I have soldered in three new wires to the stump that was left, now just need to know where they go!Cheers,
Peter


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 Posted: Fri Oct 11th, 2019 09:44 am
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 Posted: Fri Oct 11th, 2019 03:26 pm
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Peter Buffo
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Thanks Mark! Appreciate it! I’m putting one fan together from parts of three basket case fans. I’m learning a lot! If anyone has a pic of original wiring and switch plate set up, I’d love to try to mimic it. I’ve seen porcelain caps and soldered wires wrapped in fabric tape and string...what is best way to mimic (safely) an early 1920s electrician?
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 Posted: Fri Oct 11th, 2019 05:14 pm
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Peter Buffo
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Well, I did a basic test run to see if the set up worked for both switch and motor ....looks like it’s gonna need to be rewound. It hummed and started smoking! I guess I get to learn how to rewind now!
Any suggestions and references with pics are appreciated....
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Alex Rushing
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May just have gotten to hot. Try different combinations of wiring, and be sure to check the amperage draw. Should be less than 1A. Check the continuity of the leads as well and post the ohm readings. That will tell whether the motor is a goner or not.

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Thanks Alex, I’m a novice when it comes to electrical testing.... I’m considering getting the switch and the motor rebuilt.... any suggestions on who to reach out to?Cheers,
Peter

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Peter, what size fan is this and what is the Style Number?   I have this photo of the switch from a 12" Westy from the early 1920s.   Hope this might be helpful.



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 Posted: Sun Oct 13th, 2019 10:52 pm
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Switch and coil from a 16" 40's fan

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 Posted: Mon Oct 14th, 2019 01:24 pm
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Peter Buffo wrote: Thanks Alex, I’m a novice when it comes to electrical testing.... I’m considering getting the switch and the motor rebuilt.... any suggestions on who to reach out to?Cheers,
Peter
I am just concerned at the amount of money that you'll be investing in the fan.The early brass blade Westy fans MIGHT be worth rebuilding, but most of the Westy fans after they went to stamped steel are going to exceed their value in rebuilding.
If the fan is sentimental, and you're looking to use it a lot, then it is worth it. Motor rewinds are costly, and switch rebuilds can be costly on the 3-line headwire Westy fans, since the system is finicky to get right.


One question, if I may:
How long did you leave it switched on for when you tested your first wiring configuration? I would think it would take a couple of minutes to get hot enough to smoke. When testing an antique fan, either the motor runs or it doesn't, depending on whether the connections are right or not. In the future, just connect it for a few seconds and check the amperage draw. You'll be looking for the motor to start smooth and use less than an amp of power. If it starts crazy fast on the Westy fans, it is drawing 2+ amps, meaning the start and main windings are running incorrectly.


I hope you can find someone to help get your fan running again. And I am still open to checking the ohms on my head leads for you to see if your motor is still good.




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 Posted: Mon Oct 14th, 2019 06:11 pm
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Peter Buffo
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Thanks for the responses and help Everyone! I’ve decided to return these fans to my ever increasing “I’ll get to it later” shelf and focus on my RUNNING 16 inch WESTY 6 Blade.... I’ll update on that right after my latest find!Cheers,
Peter



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 Posted: Tue Oct 15th, 2019 03:54 am
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I understand putting it away. The Westy fans are a bear to work on. Wiring being one of the finicky bits.
Just for when you decide to unshelve the Westy 4 blade, here is the simple wiring drawing I made for mine when I soldered three black wires on.




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