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 Posted: Sat Oct 12th, 2019 05:33 pm
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David Kilnapp
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Friends and fellow collectors:
Today I acquired a fan which has long been on my wish list:  an R & M Lollipop. My friend, Rick Powell (an AFCA member) alerted me to the seller who posted on facebook marketplace. I contacted him and learned that he was relatively close, about 87 miles away, in Connecticut so I jumped in my car and made the four hour round trip.

The price was inexpensive (PM me and I'll tell you what it was).










The fan appears to be wonderfully sound though it only runs at one speed (is this a one speed fan?). 

The rubber bumpers were wrong and were limiting the range of motion. I installed correct bumpers so that the lollipop goes the distance it should. The lollipop was re-soldered at some point (very sloppy job) as was the flag badge on the cage. Hopefully, I'll be able to remove the excess solder.
Sometime in its life, the flag badge was removed and re-soldered onto the cage. It is not properly centered so that will have to be fixed. I will be sending the motor and base tags to my friend, Dan O'Toole in Texas, for his excellent repainting (if he is willing) and the body and base to Rick Powell for his excellent japanne work. There is no evidence of the pin striping that I would expect to see on this fan (like the example below)




What do you think? Should I have the 1/32th inch pin stripes done? I know an old timer nearby who does fancy pin striping on cars who would be willing to do this for me.

I'm very happy to have acquired it and will take the time to restore it as best I can. More pictures will follow.




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 Posted: Sat Oct 12th, 2019 05:57 pm
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Mark Behrend
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Nice fan,  I have the victor version of it.  You should be able to rotate the cage to get the emblem straight.  The paint looks rather nice on it, maybe just clean it up and then see what you think.  I saw that post and knew it wouldn't last to long.  Great score!

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 Posted: Sat Oct 12th, 2019 05:59 pm
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Mark Olson
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This is one of those times that I wish that I was two hours from Connecticut!
Nice Score.

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 Posted: Sat Oct 12th, 2019 06:38 pm
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David Kilnapp
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When I rotate the cage the emblem gets more out of plumb. I'll fix that. It's all apart now. I'll post pictures tomorrow of the speed coil. Very funky looking. Never seen anything like it.

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 Posted: Sat Oct 12th, 2019 08:50 pm
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David, that should be a fun project and lead to a very nice fan. 
Lollipops are all two speed.

I have never seen a lollipop without the pin striping as you show in the other photo.   I'd advise to have it redone as most people will expect or want lollipops to have pin striping

Does your speed coil and switch look like this one from a 16" Victor lollipop but the same on all lollipops.  This switch was also used on some of the first year of the R&M gearback oscillators, both 12 and 16" versions.






This should be the "rotation" of the flag cage badge.






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 Posted: Sat Oct 12th, 2019 10:27 pm
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Lane Shirey
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Dave, that’s a sweetie for sure!!  It’ll be even prettier with a new coat of paint! 

Last edited on Sat Oct 12th, 2019 10:29 pm by Lane Shirey

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 Posted: Sun Oct 13th, 2019 01:12 am
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David Kilnapp
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Here is what the speed coil looks like:






Steve:  Thanks for the pictures. I appreciate that. Take a look at the speed coil above. Does that look right?

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 Posted: Sun Oct 13th, 2019 01:39 am
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David Kilnapp wrote: Here is what the speed coil looks like:






Steve:  Thanks for the pictures. I appreciate that. Take a look at the speed coil above. Does that look right?

Looks like the switch and coil in my lollipop but have there been any breaks or attempted repairs to the coil wire and is the wire nichrome?  Being two speeds it would seem to me (not too knowledgeable on this...) that the coil would be in series with the incoming power for the slow speed and bypassed for full speed.   I'd be looking for an open in the coil of wire.   

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 Posted: Sun Oct 13th, 2019 11:54 am
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David Kilnapp
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So this is supposed to be a two speed fan then?
Who in this wonderful club, might be talented enough to undertake a repair of this speed coil? Please PM me.

Last edited on Sun Oct 13th, 2019 04:50 pm by David Kilnapp

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 Posted: Sun Oct 13th, 2019 07:38 pm
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David Kilnapp wrote: So this is supposed to be a two speed fan then?
Mine runs on two speeds although the speeds are close but definitely two different speeds.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 13th, 2019 08:02 pm
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David Kilnapp
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Thanks Steve. I may reach out to Rick Huckabee to see if he might be willing to take a look at the coil for me. Dan O'Toole suggested that I talk to Stefan Osdene who pointed me in the direction of a couple of fellas, one of whom I have emailed (Pat Pattison). 

Last edited on Sun Oct 13th, 2019 09:49 pm by David Kilnapp

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 Posted: Mon Oct 14th, 2019 07:15 pm
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Sean Campbell
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Great score Dave! :D Never know what you’ll find on CL. I’d love to know what you paid for it!

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 Posted: Mon Oct 14th, 2019 07:26 pm
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Wow! Nice fan! Congratulations!Cheers,
Peter

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 Posted: Mon Oct 14th, 2019 08:43 pm
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David Kilnapp
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Thanks Peter. The fan is completely dis - assembled and the parts are on their way around the country. The base, head case and struts to Rick Powell in Michigan for his excellent japanning (then to my pin striper here in Massachusetts), the motor tags to Dan O'Toole in Texas for his wonderful repainting work and the brass to Ron Bethoney here in Massachusetts for his refinishing. Don't know yet if he'll be able to clean up the messy soldering job on the lollipop. If not, I'll be asking Dan O'Toole to fashion one for me. It's a group effort!

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