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 Posted: Sun Oct 20th, 2019 11:33 pm
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Chris A. Campbell
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Have a small quantity of these currently and going forward may cast as needed. The Emerson 19xxx,16xxx,21xxx will be available maybe late November and made to order. 

Each is an exact reproduction, kiln fired, glazed and then re-kilned.

As with the early porcelain bases these are glazed on the face and sides. Exception will be the 19xxx, 21xxx,16xxx having an overall matte finish.

1. Diehl triangular switch $75
2. Early Emerson 2 speed $50
3. Mid Emerson (19xxx,16xxx,21xxx) $50




Shipping $8 by usps flat rate. Can deliver to Geoffs in Nov. (Saturday only)

On hand have 3-4 each of the Diehl and Emerson 2 speed. 

























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 Posted: Mon Oct 21st, 2019 10:50 am
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Safe to assume that the 19xxx, 21xxx,16xxx bases are NOT compatible with a 29646?

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 Posted: Mon Oct 21st, 2019 12:28 pm
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NM Whitney Jr. wrote: Safe to assume that the 19xxx, 21xxx,16xxx bases are NOT compatible with a 29646?
Generally many of these have holes which will align, but considering how common a 29646 switch is you are best to just find one from a donor or reach out to Tom Newcity and see if he has one rebuilt, which in themselves are miniature works of art. 


The 3 switch bases I have are generally broken or missing and would be a starting point to rebuild from or swap components.

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Chris,
Will the Emerson 2 speeds work with a PI-241?  If so, I'm in.

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Brad Hughes wrote: Chris,
Will the Emerson 2 speeds work with a PI-241?  If so, I'm in.

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Possibly. The PI241 started off with a manual start with a 3rd contact to engage start winding. If yours has a manual start then it will not work for you. 

Towards the end the PI241 production they had a centrifugal start with two speeds and two contacts and this set up carried over into the 910 and then 1510 as well as the Trojan. In that case it would work if your pi241 is centrifugal start.

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Does this help?

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Works of art. Nice job Chris...……..Dan H.

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Chris are you going to reproduce Tank switches? Many that I have run across are cracked, might be a good candidate?  I will supply a good one if there’s a demand for them.

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Rick Powell wrote: Chris are you going to reproduce Tank switches? Many that I have run across are cracked, might be a good candidate?  I will supply a good one if there’s a demand for them.

Tank switch bases would consume much more material and feel the cost would be prohibitive. I'd estimate them at 800 grams vs the above at 225-275 grams 

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Brad Hughes wrote: Does this help? Brad , show us a picture of the back of the ,motor. That will tell whether the rotor has a start switch on it or not.

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Currently making more of the plates.

The plan is to make plates through May and then pick back up late in the year only on an as needed basis. After May will likely not have a chance until end of year.

The plate options are:


1. Diehl triangular switch. $75
2. Early Emerson 2 speed $50
3. Mid Emerson (19xxx,16xxx,21xxx) $50
4. Tank. $75

Diehl will be gloss glazed as originally bottom and sides. Top unglazed
Early Emerson 2 speed gloss glazed as originally bottom and sides. Top unglazed
Mid Emerson will have a matte glaze or can be unglazed with black paint.
Tank plate will be unglazed with black paint.

Glazes will be applied and re-kilned post initial kilning.

Will post images of the tank and mid Emerson in next month.

Late in year 5th option may be making 9” Emerson switch plates, but tentative.

These are just plates without hardware.

Looking for indications of interest at this time and can deliver to Geoffs

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With the lead time in receiving material plus casting time would ideally need indications of interest by the end of March.

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put me down for 1 early emerson , 1 mid emerson & 1 tank, thanks again Chris

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That is really nice work Chris. All my Emersons have switches intact, but I will hit you up if I need one in the future!

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Great Job!  Chris, could you please share a close shot of the Diehl name cast into the switch? Just curious how prominent it is. 

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Russ Huber wrote: Great Job!  Chris, could you please share a close shot of the Diehl name cast into the switch? Just curious how prominent it is. 
Thanks. Glazed last night a few, but this is about how the name appears

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Unglazed and awaiting a little clean up. 

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The switch bases look great Chris, If thought I could find the rest of the switch for an orate base 12" DC Diehl I would get one for sure.  Let me know if you or some one may have the rest of the switch. Great Job!
Thanks: Bobby 

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Bobby Gaines wrote: The switch bases look great Chris, If thought I could find the rest of the switch for an orate base 12" DC Diehl I would get one for sure.  Let me know if you or some one may have the rest of the switch. Great Job!
Thanks: Bobby 


Bobby,

At some point will be rebuilding a Toilet Bowl motor switch 75% from scratch and will keep you in mind. Speed contacts, mica and nichrome windings with a huge thanks to Russ’s ohm measurements will be easy task. 

Is your fan 220vdc or 110vdc? Mine was 220vdc and now wound 110vdc, but will get ohms if needed for 220v.

The insulated lever would be possible by many machinist on this board, but above my capabilities and my switch lever is a beavertail profile vs the black phenolic stock. There is also a brass strip that provides power from switch to terminal which would need profiled.

Diehl used exact same motor, brush holders, and switch assembly on Ornate motors and Toilet Bowl. Switch lever is only difference. 

Thanks
Chris




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Chris, thanks for time and effort on sharing the image.  The switches are dandy. 

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Chris, That sounds great. Please let me know when you get to that point!
Thank You: Bobby

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