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 Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2020 06:54 pm
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Eric Snyder
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Hello all,
I just purchased this yesterday off of Craigslist.  Kept social distance from sellers but I needed to get it as I had back surgery this am and wouldn't have been able to get it for awhile afterwords.  I haven't purchased one that's been restored before but I'm extremely happy with this one.  Not sure when it was restored but the sellers purchased it back in 2003 in Arizona and it was in it's current condition.  Any info would be appreciated.  I haven't opened it up but they said the motor windings have been revarnished, new wicks installed and they added a 2 amp fuse for safety.  Runs super smooth.  Thanks, Eric




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 Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2020 07:52 pm
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David Kilnapp
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Hi Eric. As it happens I just finished working on one of these fans. You can read about it here:

http://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/58400.html

This fan was made around 1923 or 1924.  Below is an original advertisement for this fan.

You were very fortunate to get one with a working choke coil. The two I've restored both had burned out switches and they are very hard to come by. And both List 3854's I worked on had burned out start windings which probably got that way from the choke coil issues. I'm curious as to what you paid (PM me). This is a great daily runner and the oscillation mechanism (which changed to the screw type on the wheel) was very innovative for its time. And yours still has the original R & M stripes around the head case, which is very unusual. You have acquired a very nice fan indeed!  There is a wealth of information on the forum about this fan if search for "R & M List 3854" using the search function.
For instance:

http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=39872&forum_id=1&highlight=R+%26amp%3B+M+3854
Hope your back heals quickly. I have back issues but have so far avoided surgery (on L5). Good luck and welcome to the AFCA!


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 Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2020 08:51 pm
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Eric Snyder
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Thanks!  I might have over paid (maybe) but I don't have a true brass blade fan in my collection.  Most of mine are 30's and 40's.  By far the nicest one I have now.  Due to my limited time to grab it I didn't haggle much.  Asking was $375 and I bought it for $350.  I like your fan.   I'll pay the membership fee as it won't let me comment on your link.
Surgery was microdiscectomy laminectomy for L4-L5.  It's been bulging for 20 something years but let loose a few weeks ago.  Caused some loss of motor function in my foot otherwise I probably would have put the surgery off.  Doc is a great guy and highly sought after here so I was lucky.

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 Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2020 10:49 pm
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David Kilnapp
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Sometime we'll talk Eric. I need the very same surgery. Right leg is somewhat numb all the way down to my foot. Doctor said when nothing else works (acupuncture, chiropractic etc) then come and see him for microdiscectomy.

The fan in the pictures I posted was not mine. It was another member's whom I assisted with a restoration. For a nicely restored fan I don't think you overpaid.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 25th, 2020 04:58 pm
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Thanks.  And let me know.  Made it through and now pretty sore where they went in.  Told that would be better in a week or two.  I may have opted out if it weren't for some lost function of toes and foot.  Told that could take weeks/months to get better.  Chance that it might not too but I'm optimistic.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 25th, 2020 11:39 pm
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My wife had the exact surgery on Jan. 27.  She is recovering quite quickly as I’m sure you will.  She has occasional pain similar to what she had before, but as we understand the nerves have “memory” and that is happening less frequently as time goes on.  It beats having constant numbness and pain like she had before the surgery.  

Actually one of our members, Chris Harding got her a reference for the surgeon, who was superb.  We have him to partly thank for the positive outcome! 

I wish you the best with your recovery!  

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 Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 09:14 pm
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Eric Snyder
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Thank you for the encouraging response.  Feeling a bit better today.  Think I can already move my toes more than before.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 05:43 am
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I saw this one on Craigslist. I live in down in Long Beach, at the other side of LA from Newbury Park.

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Steven P Dempsey
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Nice. I have the same (with a "C")

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 Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2020 12:23 pm
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I haven't even changed the oil yet!Has a bit of a wobble at high speed.


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LIST 3854-C R&M.jpg

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 Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2020 12:24 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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I offered $90 for this one, most times if you offer around 20% less than the asking price it will be excepted!!

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 Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2020 04:24 pm
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It was so close and the day before I'd be unable to carry it for 6 weeks due to surgery so I had to get it.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2020 04:30 pm
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Eric Snyder
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Nice.  I'll have to see what the difference is in a C model.  I offered exactly 20% lower but he was firm and I didn't have time to bargain but am really happy with it.

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 Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2020 12:43 am
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Steven P Dempsey
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Yours is so nice, I have very few "restored" fans
Mostly projects & parts fans

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 Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2020 06:41 pm
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Eric Snyder
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None of mine were in this restored condition.  I normally leave them in their current state of patina and make sure they work or if they are really bad I'll do an amateur restoration.   Been happy with my resto's.  None of them are worth a whole lot anyway but I love having them around.

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 Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2020 10:38 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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I PUT NEW felt wicks,change the grease in the gear box, after that it is really cosmetics.Spit & shine, although spitting is not so cool these days.

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