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 Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2020 08:51 pm
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I’ve known Kevin a very long time. He’s collected antique fans longer that I have. He started off collecting Hot Air Fans, then went to early electric fans. Kevin lives in Connecticut so has had access to the very early fans. He’s been a member of the AFCA a long time but hasn’t been active on the Forum.
Kevin sent images of an early Westinghouse fan he’s working on. It predates the Tesla’s. I think the only other one known is in the Smithsonian. Here you go;

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 Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2020 08:52 pm
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All I can say is.....WOW!

And they already had them turning "backwards"!

~Sparky~

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Wow, thanks for sharing!

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Very nice. 133 cycles I think. They may have something similar at the museum of science and industry.

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WOW!:eyes

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I would love to hear any story surrounding this fan. How it was found, anything.  Wow. 

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John Trier wrote: I would love to hear any story surrounding this fan. How it was found, anything.  Wow. 
I definitely second this! I can't even begin to imagine finding this kind of stuff in the wild anymore. What does that make, two known?! Three at most? What a supremely lucky guy!

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That is where the other one is. 

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Proto-Tesla? With five cap screws...  Only have seen that style tag in one other instance, it's early..........



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Steve Rockwell wrote: Proto-Tesla? With five cap screws...

Kevin's fan would not be a Tesla since it is a single speed fan and did not use the Tesla patent.

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Steve, I gave the wrong impression, I'm not saying it's a Tesla... 

Proto- as in predecessor to Tesla, possibly what they offered in 1894 between this:






      and this:




Whatever the case, Keven Shail that's a great artifact.....


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1895 introduced the single speed induction desk fan. No mention of it in the 96 Westinghouse catalogue.

Tesla's motor patent is self starting. Hassler's patented shaded start wind is as Philip Colston would say.....subsidiary, In a nut shell, Kevin Shail's single speed has to start somehow unless he is flicking the blade when juiced. 





Kevin Shail's Example prior to repair:




Smithsonian Example:





Science and Industry Example:

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Notice all three examples have design changes it appears all in the same year.

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I met Kevin at Fanfair in Richmond, Va.  and was happy to have a chance to look over the pieces he brought for display. His collection was amazing.

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"We offer for the first time a single phase induction fan motor" ~ 1895

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Here's part of the Company's version...



 Thanks to all for posting on this novel (to me) topic...

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Incredible.  Thank you for posting.  Wow.  Wow. 

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      Can't quite leave this one alone, yet... this other thread includes 1894 catalog images I've never had access to, and more early Westinghouse fans...

http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=14614

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I owned the early Westinghouse at one time. Traded it.

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Steve Rockwell wrote:       Can't quite leave this one alone, yet.


Westinghouse wonder boy Oliver Shallenberger had designed a fan motor compatible for either alternating or direct current in ….1890. 

https://books.google.com/books?id=yItMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA248&lpg=PA248&dq=shallenberger+fan+motor&source=bl&ots=S50K_1Znd8&sig=ACfU3U2s8qravHn8aUun3BysX23JXv7-jQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFguaru7foAhWDWc0KHV7xBlIQ6AEwAHoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=shallenberger%20fan%20motor&f=false





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Westinghouse's Phillip Lange had his patented fan motor on the market in 91.



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This is Lamme's account of his work in the early development:



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Russ Huber wrote: Steve Rockwell wrote:       Can't quite leave this one alone, yet.


Westinghouse wonder boy Oliver Shallenberger had designed a fan motor compatible for either alternating or direct current in ….1890. 

https://books.google.com/books?id=yItMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA248&lpg=PA248&dq=shallenberger+fan+motor&source=bl&ots=S50K_1Znd8&sig=ACfU3U2s8qravHn8aUun3BysX23JXv7-jQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFguaru7foAhWDWc0KHV7xBlIQ6AEwAHoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=shallenberger%20fan%20motor&f=false






Can anyone figure a way to get a peek in that pavilion?  There are 1890 Westinghouse fan motors in each corner






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