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 Posted: Tue May 12th, 2020 09:29 pm
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Sean Campbell
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Hello All!

I would like to find someone to do the pinstripes on my Lundell Fan after she gets new Japan paint. Unfortunately the finish can’t be saved. I would like the pinstripes to be as accurate as possible to reference photos I will take of the originals before they are lost. Does anyone know someone who could do this for me? Thanks!

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 Posted: Tue May 12th, 2020 09:55 pm
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Look for someone who has pin striped cars and can do thin stripes freehand like originally done on the fans.  Some fans had a bit of additional decoration that was not applied by pinstriping.   Maybe David Teti in CT?   He's not a fan club member but has restored Edison phonograph bedplates and Edison fans too.

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 Posted: Tue May 12th, 2020 11:17 pm
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I've thought about pinstripping in the past and it seems to me they would have been done while the fan base or motor is spinning.  On a lathe or by other means.   They are too perfect to be done free hand. 

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 Posted: Wed May 13th, 2020 02:03 pm
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I got a Beugler striping tool and a turntable specifically for that, but the turntable is a bit weak, I need a stronger one. And more practice with the Beugler...

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2020 01:54 am
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Sorry, but the tape versions I have seen ain't quite right. The R&Ms were so thin and consistent, never seen any like it to date.

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2020 02:17 am
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Some years ago one member used a phonograph turntable to place his fan on to strip with a striping brush.  It turned out remarkably well I thought.  There is no substitute for handle striping with a striping brush.   The mechanical stripers are to perfect.

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2020 04:55 am
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Find a good one and you won't need a turn table. I've watched a local artisan in action with his camel hair brushes. Amazing.  He has done work for me cheap, he is eccentric and likes old fans.  :clap: :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOaEhMHe3jo




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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2020 10:35 am
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I've also thought about how a lot of things were done.   I saw an old film about old sewing machines of the same time period.  To paint them they were just dipped in a tub of paint.   I sure fans were done the same way.  And on pin-striping I think they were pin-striped while the paint was somewhat tacky.  You cannot feel the pin-striping and they lasted over 100 years in rough conditions.   Other decorations are obviously hand painted as Russ has pointed out.  But, say on an Emerson tripod, the base flowers you see on early Mestons were hand painted but on later tripods, I wonder if the more detailed base decoration were decals.  The 2 pin-strips on each leg of a lollipop are arching and are of the exact radius from the center of the fan base.  Making thousands upon thousands of these fans, I'll bet the process of simple pin-striping was mechanized and timely.  And just thinking about pin striping fans in a restoration scenario; if one could get a lollipop base spinning on a turntable, and scratch the paint with a point, and then fill in the perfect scratch with paint, you'd really have something.   

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2020 01:22 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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were the gold on Emerson speed numbers & early motor castings hand applied?

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Steven P Dempsey wrote: were the gold on Emerson speed numbers & early motor castings hand applied?To me it appears the paint was hand applied.  Looking at numerous examples would tell better.
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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2020 03:35 pm
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I have a quart of gold One-Shot pinstripe enamel, a lifetime supply to be sure. I can send you some, 

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2020 04:40 pm
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Michael Rathberger
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This one is done really well. Get's



pretty close. It's an R&M DC.

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2020 04:44 pm
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Mike, hat looks really good! Where did you get that done? Richard, I honestly don’t think I’m skilled enough at painting to try that myself. I’d rather have a professional do it. Thanks for the offer though!

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2020 06:18 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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Quick, how many stripes do those early R&Ms Have??

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2020 06:20 pm
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I think a stencil was applied to those motor housings - I used to make a lot of stencils

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2020 06:23 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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I did all these walls  with stencils , gold paint & oils, striping done with painter's tape


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 Posted: Sun May 24th, 2020 02:41 am
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Sean Campbell wrote: Hello All!

I would like to find someone to do the pinstripes on my Lundell Fan after she gets new Japan paint. Unfortunately the finish can’t be saved. I would like the pinstripes to be as accurate as possible to reference photos I will take of the originals before they are lost. Does anyone know someone who could do this for me? Thanks!


http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=11523&forum_id=1&highlight=Interior+conduit+factory+

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 Posted: Mon May 25th, 2020 11:58 am
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Steve: that room looks amazing. You certainly are a talented man! WOW!

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 Posted: Mon May 25th, 2020 02:56 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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Well, thanks David - arthritis has rendered those days as history, I just dropped a stupid set screw for a 6" fan - - lost.just can't do detail work anymore, has really impacted my fan repairs. One of the reasons I appreciate R&Ms additional attention to details, for a (former) Art Director it adds value - - so I always look for original Japan finishes

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 Posted: Mon May 25th, 2020 04:33 pm
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Carlton Ward does excellent pin striping. He has done several raffle fans.

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 Posted: Mon May 25th, 2020 07:36 pm
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This is some of Paul Graves recent work on a 16" Lollipop he restored for me.  Pictures do not do it justice.



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 Posted: Mon May 25th, 2020 07:54 pm
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Sean Campbell
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Thank you very much everyone for all your suggestions!

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