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 Posted: Wed May 20th, 2020 02:48 am
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Frank McCormack
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Hi all, I picked up a 1920s Emerson Junior this weekend.  It currently doesnt work and needs TLC but thats why I'm getting into the hobby.  This one has the words TWIN-SIX stenciled on the backside of the blades, the fellow I purchased it from was wondering if its significant, me too.

Any thoughts?
Sorry for the sideways pics, I haven't figured out why windows will let me rotate the picture but still imports it the original sideways.














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 Posted: Wed May 20th, 2020 03:37 am
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Hey Frank!  I can’t answer  the blade lettering.  But the pics should  pull in straight if you crop them square

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Packard had a V-12, also referred to as a, twin six.
Maybe a tie in there?

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Thomas Peters wrote: Packard had a V-12, also referred to as a, twin six.
Maybe a tie in there?

Ditto. I was looking into that prior.  :D

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You got that jr from the estate sale. I got lucky and got the 24666. Sadly they all sat in water for so long. 

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Balance? Whistles??



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Sometimes fans were later marked for ownership and the labeled for entities such as rentals and hotels. My guess is marked on back side of blades to represent this nature. Much like towels that say Holliday Inn.

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Chris A. Campbell wrote: Sometimes fans were later marked for ownership and labeled for entities such as rentals and hotels. My guess is marked on back side of blades to represent this nature. Much like towels that say Holliday Inn.

Actually found this: You could buy post cards and matchbooks on Ebay.


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Steven P Dempsey wrote: Balance? Whistles??



What does this have to do with a emerson post? 

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Chris A. Campbell wrote: Chris A. Campbell wrote: Sometimes fans were later marked for ownership and labeled for entities such as rentals and hotels. My guess is marked on back side of blades to represent this nature. Much like towels that say Holliday Inn.

Actually found this: You could buy post cards and matchbooks on Ebay.


I think you found the answer Chris,

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Maybe the "Twin Six Motel" was along Route 66 years ago?  :wondering:

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Levi Mevis wrote: Maybe the "Twin Six Motel" was along Route 66 years ago?  :wondering:

It was. Address on matchbook...



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I don't even want to think about the things that poor fan witnessed...

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Michael Rathberger wrote: I don't even want to think about the things that poor fan witnessed...




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Thanks guys!  I had not even considered that.
Whats really interesting is that that hotel location is a couple miles from my house so it sounds like it has really  been around and has come back home. 
The fan is in pretty rough shape so I plan to totally take it apart someday and redo it to a fine runner, but it might be best just to clean the blades with simple green, do a bit of balancing if needed and keep the patina and hotel designation?  I really like that bit of history!

Thanks!
Frank

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Frank McCormack wrote: Thanks guys!  I had not even considered that.
Whats really interesting is that that hotel location is a couple miles from my house so it sounds like it has really  been around and has come back home. 
The fan is in pretty rough shape so I plan to totally take it apart someday and redo it to a fine runner, but it might be best just to clean the blades with simple green, do a bit of balancing if needed and keep the patina and hotel designation?  I really like that bit of history!

Thanks!
Frank



It is a common fan that you could replace with another if ever wishing to restore. With the heritage and possible reference through proximity I personally would keep as is. Actually would enjoy finding something hallmarked to a past local business. With that said simple green may likely attack the stenciled paint and silver base paint which was not original. The dust trail on blades may be best with soap and water and may have more downside by attempting anything more hot. 

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Thanks for the advice Chris. The base is pretty rusty like it had been sitting in water and the switch doesn't move. Would I ruin the fan by redoing the base and cleaning the motor and getting it running again? And just clean the remainder with soap and water to keep the original look?

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Frank McCormack wrote: Thanks for the advice Chris. The base is pretty rusty like it had been sitting in water and the switch doesn't move. Would I ruin the fan by redoing the base and cleaning the motor and getting it running again? And just clean the remainder with soap and water to keep the original look? As far as soap and water was thinking in regards to the twin-six stencil which may lift off.  Rest of fan you can clean up with simple green or acetone. Even if repainting the entire fan wouldnt be so bad, but would keep hallmark stenciling.  The switch has a steel spider rivet that will be rusty. You may be able to use penetrant to loosen. Would imagine salvageable without needing to remove but if so assembly is held on by two pop rivets. 

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Great, sorry for the misunderstand Chris. Thats exactly what I will to do with it, I like the history of the blades too.  And thanks for the pics too, good to know before I dive in.

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Jeez, cool your jets, If I had a nickle for every off topic post - - I was showing a custom mod on a fan, and how many fans tell a story - - I made the mistake of diluting an Emerson Thread I guess, I have around 15 Emmy's with owner's institutions tags, stencils, etc. Will post when this cools off a bit

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Frank McCormack wrote: Great, sorry for the misunderstand Chris. Thats exactly what I will to do with it, I like the history of the blades too.  And thanks for the pics too, good to know before I dive in.


Frank, I have the non oscillator version of your fan currently apart. If needing any photos or if hung up in an area will be very easy to get a photo to you and feel free to ask.

I am curious if your fan has a stamped steel cover? Out of 5-7 of the 10” I have done
have yet to encounter a cast cover. The rest of the fan will be cast iron.

Regardless of how far you take this want to mention that the center shaft for rotor will have 4 small openings. 2 on top and 2 on bottom. Cleaning the dried oil from the holes along with small channels will help the rotor spin much more efficiently once re-oiled.

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Steve, I'm a bit of a hot rodder too, cant usually leave things stock.  Looking forward to seeing your fans.  I have a 1967 Mercury Cougar that is a combo of a 68 and other stuff to make it gooder and fun to drive.  It looks fairly stock except for the chevy color (I tease my chevy buddies it looks better on a ford) but underneath really isnt. Fans to me are great pieces of mechanical art that I want to have fun with too.

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