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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2020 10:08 pm
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Noah Britt
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I'm disassembling this 1939 GE standard 12" 49x929. I removed the two small screws on the neck, but I cannot figure out how the neck comes off the motor, (if it even does). It turns around infinitely, but won't come off. Does anyone know how it comes off?Thanks!





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 Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2020 09:26 pm
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Noah Britt
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Bump.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2020 11:49 pm
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I think its press fit on, I don't think its meant to come apart. 

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 Posted: Sat Jun 27th, 2020 03:25 pm
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If that's the case, I'm going to have a fun time sanding and painting the motor/neck/oscillator linkage assembly. (The oscillator linkage is riveted to the neck.)

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They did that because this was the lowest end model of fan GE offered, in other words it was the bottom of the barrel so to speak, or a dime store model and like its other dime store brethren it wasn't meant to be serviced in the same way as the Vortalex or the Quiet Blade models were.
This was more or less the predecessor to the 1950s GE Standard fans (the strap models) and those too weren't meant to be serviced either.  

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I had one of those standard models, 12" with red badge, but it was in excellent condition.   I found, in time, that many newer and cheaper fans were a pain to work on.  My standard had a cardboard base not meant to be removed.  Many of the stamped steel fans have sheet metal screws going into sheet metal.   I decided to stay with the old, quality, cast iron fans for the most part where the fan has machine screws going into solid cast iron.   Much easier to work on.  They also have parts that can be easily removed and are not riveted on the fan.

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Although the GE standards are low end models, I thought it would still be disassemble-(able?) since it was made in the 30's. Emersons in the thirties (and 40's) are easily disassembled.

I like the feeling of restoring a fan that usually gets left behind in the barn to rust. It is not often you see a restored GE standard!

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Hard grease holds it better than glue. Soak the neck in penetrating oil overnight. Stand on the base and pull.
Repeat daily until it comes loose.

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Rickey Williams wrote: Hard grease holds it better than glue. Soak the neck in penetrating oil overnight. Stand on the base and pull.
Repeat daily until it comes loose.

Has this method worked for you or someone you know? I'm not trying to be disagreeable, but I'd rather not risk breaking the pot-metal neck unless I know this is a proven-to-be working method. Also, would I pull on just the pot metal neck, or the steel ring above it that has the holes? (Note the separation between the neck and the steel ring.) The pot-metal neck can rotate in the steel circular piece, and the circular piece can rotate on the motor housing.

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Rickey Williams wrote: Hard grease holds it better than glue. Soak the neck in penetrating oil overnight. Stand on the base and pull.
Repeat daily until it comes loose.

That's not a wise idea on a fan with pot metal parts, the pot metal parts could shatter if you use too much force to pull swollen pot metal parts apart. 

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I've done 10 or more of them. Some are easy.
The steel shaft rotates inside the aluminum neck on ball bearings held in place with c clips. Upper bearing has to come out with the shaft. The upper bearings grease hardens and holds it to the neck. Never broke one.

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And you pull straight up on the motor. Neck will stay with the base. Motor with attached shaft, steel collar, spring spacer, bearing and 2 C clips will be in your hands.

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Thanks! I'll give it a try.

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Success! I hit it with break cleaner and then sprayed WD-40 in the cracks. It came out with out much pulling. Is there a way to get the two ball bearings off?





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Noah Britt wrote: Success! I hit it with break cleaner and then sprayed WD-40 in the cracks. It came out with out much pulling. Is there a way to get the two ball bearings off?




Push the C clips off the shaft. Bearings will slide off.Lower bearing must be really stuck to the shaft.Mine always stay stuck in the neck.

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Rickey Williams wrote:Lower bearing must be really stuck to the shaft.Mine always stay stuck in the neck.
I looked at the shaft again and saw the C-clips, but there was not one holding the bottom bearing on, which I thought was strange. I didn't have time to work on getting anything off though. Hopefully I'll have time to get at it tomorrow.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2020 12:35 am
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I got the bearings and C-clips off! The lower bearing was pretty stuck on there, so I stuck the motor in the clamp and used needle nose pliers as a lever to get it off.


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One more question: Should I use oil or grease to re-lube the ball bearings? Normally I would say oil, but I might not want the fan to drift sideways while running.

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