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 Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2020 08:45 pm
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Steve Butler
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I searched for this fan and came up with larger models everyone says are Galvin.  This little guy looks like a Jr. to me. It even has what appears to be a threaded on adapter for the stamped brass blade.  What say the experts? 

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 Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2020 08:48 pm
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 Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2020 09:03 pm
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Actually it is a rebadged Galvin. Evidently Galvin & Emerson were in bed together some where in their history as the Galvin of this vintage is definitely a Junior with different vent castings, but an adapter for Emmy’s screw on rotor.

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Thanks Stan. It sure looked like a Jr. to me.  👍

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 Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2020 02:03 am
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Thanks Mike, I’ve never seen an ivory one.....yet. 

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Stan Adams wrote: Evidently Galvin & Emerson were in bed together some where in their history as the Galvin of this vintage is definitely a Junior with different vent castings, but an adapter for Emmy’s screw on rotor.
No collaborating between Galvin & Emerson. Galvin capitalized and took advantage of Emerson engineering and product until they got their a$$ in the frying pan patenting an oscillating mechanism that infringed on a recent patented Emerson oscillator adjustment case. Emerson won the patent infringement court case, and Galvin abolished the oscillator mechanism from their product line. 

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Galvin management were previously R&M(Galvin) and Emerson(Harrelson) employees, A. M. Harrelson was chief engineer for Emerson.








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Steve, does your stamped blade attract a magnet? 


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A magnet doesn’t stick Russ, it’s a stamped brass blade.  

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Maybe someone will remember better than me, but we had one of the Galvin grand kids I believe it was at Fan Fair a number of years ago. Interesting thing on this style fan, Emmy had quit that style of base before these came out. Russ, do you think Galvin bought a bunch of Emmy's old stock, the base is identical to the early Emmy Junior.

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Some of the other brands made by Emerson were Delco, Hunter, Wagner and Westinghouse.

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Stan Adams wrote: Maybe someone will remember better than me, but we had one of the Galvin grand kids I believe it was at Fan Fair a number of years ago. Interesting thing on this style fan, Emmy had quit that style of base before these came out. Russ, do you think Galvin bought a bunch of Emmy's old stock, the base is identical to the early Emmy Junior.
  That grandchild had still some harsh family feelings toward Belknap Hdw. , and some business deals that Mr Galvin came out on the losing end. Galvin eventually morphed into K/M . Wonder if there is a connection between Belknap and Knapp-Monarch that authored the feelings she had of ill will ??

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Steve Butler wrote: A magnet doesn’t stick Russ, it’s a stamped brass blade.  
Thanks, Steve. Makes me wonder how long that cast stationary model was on the market? I would think with a stamped blade it would of been later.

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Stan Adams wrote: Russ, do you think Galvin bought a bunch of Emmy's old stock, the base is identical to the early Emmy Junior.

If it is an Emerson manufactured base, it would have a 4 digit casting ID number cast into the inside of the base. Emerson castings were most, if not all with a part number ID. Check it out on the inside of the cast stationary base. I don't have a Galvin stationary to validate it. 

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FWIW...would someone please at your convenience that owns a Galvin stationary look inside the cast base and see if you see a 4 digit number cast into the base. Lets see if Emerson supplied the base casting to Galvin?  :wondering:  :D 

If it has a base plate, it would take just seconds to remove it. 

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Russ, mine doesn’t have any markings inside the base.  It’s a toggle switch versus the Jr. I have is a slide switch. 🤷‍♂️

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Steve Butler wrote: Russ, mine doesn’t have any markings inside the base.  It’s a toggle switch versus the Jr. I have is a slide switch. 🤷‍♂️
I checked inside the base of one of my Emerson juniors. Sure enough it has a 4 digit number specific for that casting. Unless someone else with a cast iron Galvin stationary comes up with number coded castings, It appears Galvin used their own castings. The Emerson junior more than likely was hot on the market in 22 and Galvin tried to cash in on it.  

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Galvin had a 10 year run before KM got em(22-32).  Those early Galvin oscillators(cast iron gear box) were made for a while until Emerson patent infringement litigation took them off the market. They are not plentiful out there, and Galvin got away with it......for a while. :D  

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It’s funny the same place I bought the Blue Grass had a 16” Galvin for sale too. I had no idea they were related.  

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Steve Butler wrote: It’s funny the same place I bought the Blue Grass had a 16” Galvin for sale too. I had no idea they were related.  
I'll bet you'll go back to get it.  :D

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Pot metal oscillators came after the Emerson oscillator patent infringement.








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