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 Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2020 02:04 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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Anybody have one of these? Tab foot brushed motor, an ad shows it was made in 1915-1916But someone else said the tags prefix dates thye fan to 1929? Were the Italians really that far behind us
in design?







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 Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2020 02:06 pm
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Voltage & Cycles??


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 Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2020 12:35 am
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Have you checked out the Simon Cutting series in the info/reference section?  Possibly the phase 2 description? http://www.fancollectors.org/info/Marelli%20Phase%202.pdf  I know there’s also a fairly new online resource by three Marelli experts, last I looked at it was about a year ago but very impressive work in progress. See https://marellifan.wordpress.com/

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 Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2020 12:42 am
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Steven P Dempsey
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a lot to take in, hope it arrives undamaged -Euro Model

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 Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2020 12:48 am
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Nice. Shipping from outside the US?  Nerve racking but I had a good experience. CA - Corrente alternada (AC).

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 Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2020 01:26 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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From Florida, but this lady is not a fan person - - that cage looks so fragile!!

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 Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2020 01:27 pm
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  Here is the ad copy -the fan's most recent history!!


Here we have a fan that I bought about 19 years ago because my brother was into fans HEAVILY.  We lived so far away never got the chance to do anything with this, with him.  He is now 85 and not well.  He can no longer see very well and so his loss is your gain.  I know the fan is worth at least what I paid for it so please bid only if you are interested.  The blades spin. It measures 16 Inches tall by 13 inches wide.  It has not been restored in anyway. The paint looks to be in good condition.  It has the original wire and the blades look brass to me along with the cage.  This is how I have had it for all this time. I will answer any questions you may have. This would be worth mega bucks to the right person so bid away.  Thanks for looking.  I am also putting up a GE as well.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2020 07:01 pm
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Steven, from what I’ve seen, that fan is from the 20s. But we all know Jan is the guy to ask! :D I own this Marelli Auretta: circa 1912.






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nice, I like the detail on base, & higher end models were nickel plated

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2020 02:43 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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Per Jan Hendricks:
Euro model debuted in 1913 - - but some models continued into the 20s - - hope the serial number is there!
I studied Spanish but not Italian.




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Steven P Dempsey
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"due Velocita" = 2 speeds perhaps??

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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2020 11:15 am
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Arrived safe & sound!! Man that paint is almost mint - - Pin Striping is so fine.Note switch has Voltage & Cycles labeled by hand in pencil
Not sure why the Brush Caps are offset unequally.


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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2020 11:18 am
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Plug Made in Australia, matching red/maroon cord & Baklite plug -niceALso - - all the screws are steel, not brass. Compared to a 12" American "Tank" this is a very light fan!!


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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2020 05:19 pm
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Very neat fan Steven! :D According to Jan, the cords were originally red. Maybe it’s original? That would be cool.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2020 05:59 pm
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Marelli used very finely stranded copper wiring, from what I've seen, and brass screws on fans of this era. Note -- brass screws come on switchplate. Like what you have. The two steel screws that hold switchplate to motor base look correct.
The original headwire would've been a very thin black, cloth-covered twisted pair like what you would see on an Emerson 910. 

On the stationary models, the leads will drop down in the housing, one from each pole, through the neck of the fan and simply are screwed down onto the appropriate taps. Each pole also has a second lead that connects to the brush. 

The trunnion models, as you probably observe, have two leads that drop out of the housing and re-enter the neck of the base.

These are neat fans which I've always thought are perfect for desktops because they don't blow too much air.

You look to have the original brush caps, which is a nice touch. Those normally broken or lost.

Also, CA = Current Alternatif (in French, anway) or alternating current in English.

Look in the reference area of this site under the catalog section at the 2 Marelli catalogs and slides prepared and donated by Simon Cutting.  These will give you a lot of information on your journey.

Happy 4th


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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2020 05:59 pm
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inside the switch it is red to maroon with a maroon plug (Aussie)

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 Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2020 04:53 am
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Steven , 
from what I've seen here in Australia , your fan is 100% original 
having restored and worked on around a dozen Euros ..all here have steel bolts , a head wire as seen in your pics....
these head wires'  were originally multi-coloured with the two wires running inside the outer sheath.. colour  fades over time .. and down under all our original power cords were red.  .you have your self a very nice fan 
congrats 
cheers jan


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centre fan was a custom job for a customer .. :D




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 Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2020 07:46 am
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Easy way to tell if headwire is original is to pull the rear motor housing endbell and see if a new one is spliced in or not.

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Steven

Congratulations on a very original fan. Marelli does have good paint work; japanning I believe.

You mentioned in your post 'the offset brush caps'. I am pretty sure that one or both of the brush holder tubes have simply become loose and moved.

They are normally kept in place by a small locating screw underneath and through the casting which locks and holds the brush holder in place. In fact, I think I can see the domed screw heads in your rear shot of the fan.

The brush holders are brass tubes with a separate delrin (or whatever you call it)  outer insulating tube.
The small screws tighten on the insulating tube and squeeze it to grip the inner brass brush holding tube also. The brass tube is exposed at its inner end inside the motor casing and the power wires attach to it there.

The electricity then passes via the brass tube into the cylindrical carbon brushes inside the tube and from there making contact with the commutator on the rotor.
The locating screws might just be loose and the tubes need to be re-positioned. You need to check if you have the brush springs under the brush cap which keep a gentle push pressure on the brushes to make sure they are constantly in a light contact with the commutator. From the general original and great condition of the fan it's a good guess that brushes and springs are present.

All this and so much more is on the excellent Marelli website mentioned by Dave Macmanaman below. Jan Hendriks is one of three experts creating the web site.

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Thanks All, good to know it's all original, I will adjust that brush holder before testing - I have not even polished this one yet! The pin striping is 99% There us light surface rust on the steel parts. What kind of value would you place on mine? I have hundreds of fans but just one Marelli.

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