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 Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2020 05:05 pm
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Anthony Lindsey
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The cross support wires are not tight on the rear cage wire.  They all slide back and forth.   Are they supposed to be stationary?  If so whatis  a good way to  make them "tight"?  



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 Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2020 06:36 pm
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William Dunlap
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When these cages were new, they were tight. They loosen up over time. Brass is pretty soft after all.
When they were originally crimped, it required a fairly large amount of pressure to do it. The is likely some evidence in the the way of a depression where the spoke should sit.
I use a specially made tool to re-tighten these. Some just bang it had with a hammer, but that won't get you anywhere.
Depending on the year of the cage, I grip the wrap tightly, then with a twist toward the center, I pull the wrap tight around the back ring. You might have to repeat this a couple of times before it's tight enough.
I do the same to loose front ring wraps, if needed.

To fix the rear ring, you will need some tubing with 3/16" ID. The coupler was usually midway between two spokes.
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Bill

Who is hunkered down with pooch to weather out this hurricane. We usually loose power and internet. Will post while possible. 
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 Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2020 07:13 pm
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Thanks Bill.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2020 09:49 pm
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Ever used a hog ring crimp?




Anthony Lindsey wrote: Thanks Bill.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2020 09:51 pm
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:violin: :violin: :violin: please allow me introduce you - hog ring crimp.




William Dunlap wrote: When these cages were new, they were tight. They loosen up over time. Brass is pretty soft after all.
When they were originally crimped, it required a fairly large amount of pressure to do it. The is likely some evidence in the the way of a depression where the spoke should sit.
I use a specially made tool to re-tighten these. Some just bang it had with a hammer, but that won't get you anywhere.
Depending on the year of the cage,
ride where the
I grip the wrap tightly, then with a twist toward the center, I pull the wrap tight around the back ring. You might have to repeat this a couple of times before it's tight enough.
I do the same to loose front ring wraps, if needed.

To fix the rear ring, you will need some tubing with 3/16" ID. The coupler was usually midway between two spokes.
Cheers,
Bill

Who is hunkered down with pooch to weather out this hurricane. We usually loose power and internet. Will post while possible. 
B.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2020 10:14 pm
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no but it looks like it would do the job.   I will check them out.

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 Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2020 04:24 am
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I made my own from a set of vise grips. Hog ring pliers would come in handy, too.
I ground the jaws smooth with a curve in them. The advantage of vise grips is that you can apply a lot more pressure to the wrap than you can with just your hand. Also, the jaws are now very narrow and can get into tight places very easily.
You often find wraps that have been squashed nearly flat by owners or repairmen trying to tighten up loose cages. I round them out with my tool if required.

The hurricane passed with just some rain, fortunately. We dodged yet another bullet.

Cheers,
Bill

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 Posted: Tue Sep 15th, 2020 12:53 pm
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I need one 3/16" tubing for repair on 16" pancake cage.    Do any local stores sell these?   ie home depot, Ace etc.  or do I have to buy a box of them on the internet?
what is the tool that can properly crimp it?      Or.....would a metal fabricator have this tool?   I would like it done properly.  

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 Posted: Tue Sep 15th, 2020 01:34 pm
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My local Ace has some brass tubing. They might not have the right size, but it's worth checking.

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