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 Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2020 02:29 pm
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Tom Newcity
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Bill,
I have a 27646 parts fan that has the 4347-1 base.  PM me if interested.

Do you also need any other parts?
  Motor grommet extension which is unique to the 27XXX's.
  Base pan with felt bottom retainer ring which is unique to the 27XXX's.      Green felt which is proper for the 27XXX.
  Appropriate gear housing which is unique to the 21, 24, and 27XXX's.
  Speed control and/or parts.  
  Speed control rebuild.  

Last edited on Sat Oct 17th, 2020 04:14 pm by Tom Newcity

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 Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2020 07:33 pm
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Tom Newcity
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Steve Stephens wrote: I will guess that both bases are identical and made with pattern number 4347 with the only difference being that Emerson had at least two separate patterns for the same piece with numbers 1 and 2, a common practice when more than one pattern existed for the same item.

Do you think it could have anything to do with the speed positions being numbered 1,2,3 or 3,2,1?  I have seen them both ways, and Bill's is numbered 3,2,1.

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 Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2020 07:48 pm
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Russ, I’m glad to be proven wrong there! That’s an outstanding repair. :shock:

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 Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 06:45 pm
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I found a local welder comfortable working on cast iron and the results are very good.  He cut a V groove along the crack and used silicon bronze rod to fill it.  I’m still working on refining things with a Dremel but feeling very positive that I will be able to keep the fan all original.  I did not plan to repaint everything and need to decide how to cover the repair to best match the rest of the finish.   Advice welcome.



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 Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 07:24 pm
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That's how I repair them. It is usually referred to as "brazing" but more accurately bronze welding. Nickel silver rod is also used, which ironically has very little nickel and no silver at all, and is also considered "soldering" as is brazing.

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Bill

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 Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 08:18 pm
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You could get the base powder coated or sent it to Rick Powell to get japanned.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 08:23 pm
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To be specific, I’m looking for advice on how to refinish the base but to make it look “old” to match the rest of the fan.

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 Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2020 03:43 am
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Update on my progress.  I found a local welder that works on cast iron and he did a great job fixing my base. Used silicon brass rod for the repair  I wanted to keep the fan original, if possible, plus I wanted to retain the embossed numbers.




I used some automotive body filler to get it perfectly smooth.  I used a primer and then Rustoleum Advanced formula gloss black.   I really wanted to keep the fan looking old and struggled with how to get the new, shiny base to match the rest of the fan.   I was able to tone down the shine with a 3M finishing pad (that I use when applying finish to wood) and it did a great job.


I used a small wire wheel to remove the loose rust on the cage and struts and then applied a boiled linseed oil and mineral spirits mix that rat rod builders use to protect patina on cars.  Spent a lot of time gently cleaning up the badge using “bar keepers friend” and Q-tips dipped in water.  I also used toothpicks dipped in water and barkeepers friend to get in all the corners.   Cleaned the blades but kept the patina.   Quite pleased with the results.














This one is going to be a daily runner in the bedroom.  It’s quiet and has a nice hum.  The only challenge I still have is the oscillator adjustment cam.   If I put the oscillator cam into a wide sweep, it clicks back to a small sweep or no sweep.   I had taken the cam apart to give it a good cleaning and then but a little Red and Tacky grease on the inside of the cam but maybe I shouldn’t have to give it more friction to keep it in place?


I want to thank everyone for their help and encouragement!    This is a terrific group - still planning to join at the end of the year.


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 Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2020 05:17 pm
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Another one saved! Good work, Bill!
The spring may be tired in the wheel. But, just stretching the spring might cause stress in the pot metal.

Have you contacted Jerry Bravi about a steel plate for the wheel base?
I would definitely not use a ratchet wheel on a daily runner without the steel Bravi cover for it.

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