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 Posted: Sat Nov 21st, 2020 11:02 am
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Rick Powell
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Looking into having Diehl 12” cage badges reproduced and trying to determine the need/want for them.  The cost per badge will be reflective of the quantity.  If you are interested please let me know how many you would like, I am hopeful the price will be comparable to the badges Donald Coleman sells for less than $40.00 each.





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 Posted: Sat Nov 21st, 2020 12:11 pm
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Michael Rathberger
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Put me down for 1..

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 Posted: Sat Nov 21st, 2020 07:53 pm
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Geoff Dunaway
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I'll go for 5 with hopes the hunt is good this year.    :clap:

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 Posted: Sat Nov 21st, 2020 08:18 pm
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Being a retired tool and die maker, The cost of making the die alone will be expensive.... More than likely you will never recoup your original investment, This is why I have not done it.. and I have a friend who has his own CNC machine and a 3-D scanner... 

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 Posted: Sun Nov 22nd, 2020 11:03 am
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Rick Powell
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David aside from your remarks of doubt do you want any?  I am fully aware of the drawbacks and am planning on forging ahead as they are not available.

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Put me down for 2

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 Posted: Sun Nov 22nd, 2020 02:35 pm
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 Posted: Mon Nov 23rd, 2020 11:24 am
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I will be working with Louis Luu to produce the badges in the next few weeks, I will report back on our progress and viability of producing them at a reasonable cost.  If this goes well I will explore reproducing ECK and Jandus. 

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Here is a sample of the parts I casted in steel and bronze.  Double levers, ECK struts, miscellaneous part...doohicky to hold the ECK motor.

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Tony Clayton
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Outstanding work Louis.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 23rd, 2020 07:37 pm
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Louis Luu
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Thanks Tony...now to learn how to make thin stamp badges. I got some ideas.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 23rd, 2020 08:04 pm
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Need to regress 120 years and see what happens 

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The Jandus is actually easy to cast...thick enough....unless there I am unaware of different types. I have the C-frame one.

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I will be making the ECK...as I need one myself.

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Louis Luu wrote: I will be making the ECK...as I need one myself.

You can count me in for 1.

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Count me for 1 on an Eck badge.

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Put me down for one as well, I don't need it at the moment but it's for the better good.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 25th, 2020 07:15 pm
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I'm looking for something like this...cast iron.  This will help me make the press badge.  I will modify it to hold the two half blocks in place and use it as a press.  Seems sturdy enough.



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 Posted: Wed Nov 25th, 2020 07:23 pm
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Louis they need to be put in a punch press to achieved the necessary force to form them, I have access to them but pretty sure if you check around the Redlands area you will locate one.

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I'm stubborn...still want to give it a try. I can make the two halves...interlocking. Would like to see how a press like this would work out on the badge. I know the big companies use the punch press because of efficiency/time. I still think something like this for a home hobbyist would work?

I figured I would make two types of mold. The first set of mold will be used to give the overall shape. Followed by the second mold which can be used for the final detail for pressing the two halves together....not explaining myself very well.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 25th, 2020 07:49 pm
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Louis Luu
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Pressing thin brass sheets should not require a huge amount of heavy machinery? I figured brass sheet is soft enough to allow something like the tool I posted to press easily? The flange edge for the disc will need to be round so as to not put too much stress/tear the brass sheet during pressing? Again...not explaining myself very well.

At least with the ECK badge...just a dome disc...easy enough to press. I will give the ECK a try first.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 25th, 2020 07:51 pm
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Louis I hope it works, stubbornness is how much of everything we use started out. I might suggest you look into a hydraulic bench top press, I got one from Harbor Freight that’s rated at 6 tons that does a good job of squishing things. It takes approximately 6.76 tons of force to punch a 3/4” hole in 1/8” brass, a 6 ton press may form it? Will be a fun project 

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 Posted: Wed Nov 25th, 2020 07:54 pm
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Richard Daugird
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I have a 20 ton press, if you want I could try to press them for you.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 25th, 2020 09:19 pm
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Thanks Rick...I'll look up Harbor Freight. Richard...I might take you up on it. I'll try first with that whatever you call it...the thing with the wheel on top and press and made of cast iron...Made in USA...should be good enough.

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I would like 1 Diehl and 1 Eck.If you make the small Jandus badge? I would like to have 1.

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I'll do the ECK first...looks easier. If all things work out...Rick, I will then do the Diehl.

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