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 Posted: Wed Dec 2nd, 2020 01:32 am
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Steven P Dempsey
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Now that the auction is over - anybody holding? Hope it gets shipped properly



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Is that for sale?
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 Posted: Wed Dec 2nd, 2020 02:14 am
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Hub may have been repaired.

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 Posted: Wed Dec 2nd, 2020 02:32 am
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Chris A. Campbell wrote: Hub may have been repaired.Yep I agree that the hub looks repaired.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Early-Antique-Emerson-1120-Ribbed-Base-Brass-Blade-Caged-Electric-Fan-/274587413622?hash=item3feeaf6c76%3Ag%3AZGkAAOSwQHVfu-%7EX&nma=true&si=FHb5gJ%252FP4BJ%252BEPdkVYwxCiHNwUo%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

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Love the fan, but it's a project.

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 Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 02:55 pm
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well, how long till the next one pops up?

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 Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 04:06 pm
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What’s something like that worth in unrestored condition ? 

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Stephen Miller wrote: What’s something like that worth in unrestored condition ? Read up, the ebay sale link is posted.

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Link doesn’t work . I assumed the auction was over . 
Steven Dempsey implied that the auction was over as well . 

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 Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 05:36 pm
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"links" often don't work (link to) on this forum but you can copy and paste the URL and see the completed auction which I did a few days ago.   That will also get you more photos of the fan.

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Stephen Miller wrote: What’s something like that worth in unrestored condition ? Well this one sold for $1,340 in this condition.

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Steve ,
Thank you, I understand now .
That’s interesting.
I’ve got one in very similar condition .
Mine is a 1010 , and it works .
1,300 seems pretty high .

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1120 is rare with only 18 on the survey. 1010 there is a lot more out there.

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 Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 10:37 pm
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I thought about it - - but a 16", rather get a 12"

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 Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 10:57 pm
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 What is the survey ? 

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Stephen Miller wrote:  What is the survey ? It's in our HOME and INFO section and done by Ron Jeter.   There is a lot of information on the home page and members should familiarize themselves with what it there.  I don't think many are aware of the great deal of details there.
http://www.fancollectors.org/info/mbr/Emerson%20Survey%20by%20Type.pdf

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 Posted: Thu Dec 3rd, 2020 11:47 pm
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Stephen Miller wrote:  What is the survey ? I believe it’s in the info section Ron Jeter has been working on for as long as I can remember.  I believe it has Emerson’s from the 24xxx series and earlier.  

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 Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 01:39 am
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Thank you Mark ,
I thought it was something like that, but I wasnt sure .
I’m fairly new to the site .

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I've always liked these 16" Emersons. I am amazed that it sold for that much, but such is feebay.

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I was in pursuit of this fan for a long time.  Finally found one at the Missouri auction.   It's massive, incredibly rare and visually stunning.   It's a Tesla era fan and 10 times (or more) rare than a Tesla.   I think this is a sleeper and a bargain at that price.  The blade (if busted) is not that hard to swap out for a 19648 assuming they are the same and if not........ close enough. 

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 Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 03:09 pm
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I though the price was quite low myself - - seen "common" GE cakes go for that, it is a bit rough but complete.

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 Posted: Fri Dec 4th, 2020 05:32 pm
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What makes this fan particularly desirable ?
I mean ... I’d love to have it , but that seems like a lot of dough .
I’m somewhat new to collecting .
Only been doing it about 10 years or so .
I would have guessed about 1/2 of what it sold for .
Thanks guys !

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Stephen Miller wrote: What makes this fan particularly desirable ?
I mean ... I’d love to have it , but that seems like a lot of dough .
I’m somewhat new to collecting .
Only been doing it about 10 years or so .
I would have guessed about 1/2 of what it sold for .
Thanks guys !
There's very few of these on the Emerson survey. It's early, attractive, and rare, hence it's very desirable.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/274587413622

For future reference...  :thumbup


















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Chris A. Campbell wrote: Hub may have been repaired.

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Tom Morel wrote: Stephen Miller wrote: What makes this fan particularly desirable ?
I mean ... I’d love to have it , but that seems like a lot of dough .
I’m somewhat new to collecting .
Only been doing it about 10 years or so .
I would have guessed about 1/2 of what it sold for .
Thanks guys !
There's very few of these on the Emerson survey. It's early, attractive, and rare, hence it's very desirable.
1903.Earlier the fan usually means they are worth more and if there are only a handful of them, usually commands a higher price. I thought it was a fair price considering the condition. I considered bidding on it, but I don't buy fans on e bay. I don't trust the shipping on e bay. 

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LOL -may get a box of SHi#

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Stephen Miller wrote: What makes this fan particularly desirable ?
I mean ... I’d love to have it , but that seems like a lot of dough .
I’m somewhat new to collecting .
Only been doing it about 10 years or so .
I would have guessed about 1/2 of what it sold for .
Thanks guys !
Excellent question.  Fan collectors have been trying to figure this out for decades.   Some pricy fans are overpriced (in my opinion) and some are bargains (like this one, in my opinion).   If I was forced to take a hammer to a Tesla or this Emerson 1120, I'd bust up the Tesla, but it's close. 

*** Rarity doesn't always equal desirability but it helps a lot.  Fans that are common by comparison, sell for as much or even much more. 
*** Visual beauty is very important and collectors often have their own preferences.   The 1120 is massive, a stick mount, ribbed base, early and rare.  And, it has the biggest difference between itself and its 12" counterpart.   The PI-241 or the 910 are small-ish and proportionately perfect but their big cousin, the 1120, is just a beast and its shear size makes it one of a kind.  
**** Collectors decide the market however.   It is quite possible that most if not all would disagree with the value I put on this model, and say, its comparison to a Tesla.   For me, all the important buttons are pushed.  

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Thank you John Trier ,
That helps a good bit .
Thank you !
I not a experienced enough collector to know the rarity of some of these models .
I am learning though .
I guess I’m still a tad shocked at the prices some of these bring.
Most of my friends are still shocked when they hear me saying that I paid 300-500 dollars for a 100 year old dilapidated fan .
A fan of this caliber would really make them worry about me !

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Just wait until you hear about how much fans like the Peerless Kickstart or Dayton Archfoot are worth. :D

Stephen Miller wrote: Thank you John Trier ,
That helps a good bit .
Thank you !
I not a experienced enough collector to know the rarity of some of these models .
I am learning though .
I guess I’m still a tad shocked at the prices some of these bring.
Most of my friends are still shocked when they hear me saying that I paid 300-500 dollars for a 100 year old dilapidated fan .
A fan of this caliber would really make them worry about me !

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I agree with most of the above. I have restored and kept the 16 inch series discussed, both versions of the PI-242's, the 1020, 1120, 1220, 1320, 1520, 1620, 1820, and 2220.  
But let's not forget the variations like the bracket fans, (1321), and the rare 12 inch variations like the 1011 and the 2010 and 2010A (completely different). 
I have very few duplicates of these left but have traded quite a few!!!
Am still looking to find my first EI-21--- the first Emerson residence fan (1/2 speed 16 inch) from 1900. 
Anyone have one for trade?

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Jim,

That was an great idea to document this. Historically many similar discussions without an image reference.

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 I like the idea of a kick start fan !  Anything that sounds like it could hurt you generally is right up my alley 


Sean Campbell wrote: Just wait until you hear about how much fans like the Peerless Kickstart or Dayton Archfoot are worth. :D

Stephen Miller wrote: Thank you John Trier ,
That helps a good bit .
Thank you !
I not a experienced enough collector to know the rarity of some of these models .
I am learning though .
I guess I’m still a tad shocked at the prices some of these bring.
Most of my friends are still shocked when they hear me saying that I paid 300-500 dollars for a 100 year old dilapidated fan .
A fan of this caliber would really make them worry about me !


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Chris A. Campbell wrote: Jim,

That was an great idea to document this.

Don't we all just hate
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As worthless as :censored on a boar.   :shock:

I hope the new owner restores the
old broad to her former glory.  :thumbup


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