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 Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2021 08:16 pm
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William Kocher
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Pictured is an unrestored GE fan. It is in running condition. I believe it is a two speed fan. The only damage on the fan is at the brass nut at the back top right. See the photograph of this section. It will be double boxed with the motor in one box with a hose clamp on the shaft. Cage and blades in another box and then combined with the motor in a larger box measuring 23"x19"x17" weighing 32 pounds. Price is $750.00

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What is the asking price, and form number on the motor tag?

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Is this for sale?

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 Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2021 09:01 pm
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I think I did not finish the listing before you sent your email. It is $750. Please disregard the last image it is from another fan.Bill 

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 Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2021 09:21 pm
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Type D1 Form F?

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 Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2021 09:33 pm
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It says Form "F"

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Good for you Dave! Nice gift!

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Seller hasn't responded (yet). Thanks Richard.

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1900 stick?

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I do not get your question.Bill

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I could meet you in Sturbridge I have arthritis in my right knee. I can drive for an hour and that is about my max.You will have to send payment to my paypal account at yankeeantiques@charter.net.
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Is that cage from a later fan? Thought it would be the open ring sans GE badge

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Steven. The fan for sale is all correct.

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OK, I know parts were carried over & repairs made over the years - - I kind of like the open ring version -I had 2 1900 models & they had both versions, This is Kim Frank level stuff!

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Steven P Dempsey wrote: Is that cage from a later fan? Thought it would be the open ring sans GE badgeEARLY 1899 GEs have the small open ring cage badge but, shortly after the early ones, GE added the GE monogram to the cage.   The cage is identical except for the addition of the GE cap.  But, very early cages had a machined center ring, not the pressed one seen on most early guards.   1900 guards were the same, with GE cap, but the rear ring was considerably heavier gauge than used on 1899 models.

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Thanks Steve. Your information is always informative and helpful

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Too bad this fan will have a mirror shine.  :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :wondering:

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Not necessarily! It won’t be my fan so the decision will rest with the one I give it to. Stay tuned

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Thank god it's not getting shined up. 

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Zachary Parr wrote:Like when it was new and beautiful? Why would that be bad???
Too bad this fan will have a mirror shine.  :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :wondering:

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Richard Daugird wrote: Zachary Parr wrote:Like when it was new and beautiful? Why would that be bad???
Too bad this fan will have a mirror shine.  :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :wondering:
Some of us prefer the look of age and history while others prefer all to be shiny, new looking, and devoid of history, patina, or character.    Neither is wrong nor is commenting on the desire to see antiques keep their patina when the patina is "good" and that is the way this pancake is:  GOOD and as nice as any of my pancakes.   In the antique car world original has become so much more desirable and interesting.   Collectors of Mission furniture almost always feel the refinishing of a good original piece will devalue the piece.   Take an antique gun and refinish it; instant devaluation of desire.   Wait a decade or less and I bet the unrestored good fans will be the ones in most demand.   By they maybe many fans will have been partially or fully reproduced to having an original unrestored one will be better.   I have never painted a fan, polished the brass on more than one two when it was needed.  But I also search out very nice original complete examples such as William's pancake.

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Patina adds character to a fan rather than the shine. I am not saying its ruining the fan but it's a shame to see patina that over 100 years old get polished away. Makes the fan one of a kind since it took 100 years to get that patina. 

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Haven't we all heard this circular discussion before?

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Steve Stephens wrote: Richard Daugird wrote: Zachary Parr wrote:Like when it was new and beautiful? Why would that be bad???
Too bad this fan will have a mirror shine.  :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :wondering:
Some of us prefer the look of age and history while others prefer all to be shiny, new looking, and devoid of history, patina, or character.    Neither is wrong nor is commenting on the desire to see antiques keep their patina when the patina is "good" and that is the way this pancake is:  GOOD and as nice as any of my pancakes.   In the antique car world original has become so much more desirable and interesting.   Collectors of Mission furniture almost always feel the refinishing of a good original piece will devalue the piece.   Take an antique gun and refinish it; instant devaluation of desire.   Wait a decade or less and I bet the unrestored good fans will be the ones in most demand.   By they maybe many fans will have been partially or fully reproduced to having an original unrestored one will be better.   I have never painted a fan, polished the brass on more than one two when it was needed.  But I also search out very nice original complete examples such as William's pancake.I too find it strange that fan collecting still favors restored over clean originals. Original fans are unique: they age differently according to the conditions they were stored in. In sharp contrast, many restored fans (although well done) blend in in a sea of shiny brass. They lose their character that can't be replicated. Fans with lots of rust, bends, incorrect parts, and poor repaints should be properly restored in my opinion.

In time I concur that collectors will value good original paint and patina acquired over a century.

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James Henderson wrote: Haven't we all heard this circular discussion before?Yes, it seems that "we" have heard this before.  But does "we" include new members and readers?   Let's give them a chance to read about those who do prefer unrestored fans and let them know that restoring a fan is not necessarily the best action.

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Excellent well considered and civil discussion!

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After polishing the blades I give this fan some fresh air & sun to tone the brass. 27666



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I definitely think patina on a nice original fan looks classy. That said the key word is NICE original. It really irks me when people are criticized for restoring a fan that looks like it was on the bottom of a lake for 100 years. In my opinion, there comes a point when it’s not patina, it’s damage. That said, I do enjoy nice original fans AND restored fans and own both. Neither is right or wrong and I just think it should be left up to personal preference and the state of the individual fans.

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too soon?


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I'd say, "Too late!"

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DOc wants this fan, fact Jack

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