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 Posted: Sun Apr 4th, 2021 02:12 pm
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Korey Kreitman
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Hello all, I’m looking for an early Emerson 16” Tripod scallop style Parker blade wing I can draw or if someone has the DXF file they would be willing to share.  I’m working on a custom project and would like to have the profile so I can water jet cut some.  I have the style used later 1910’s with cast hub.  This is the one between the pancake style and that.  PM me if you have something.  Thanks, Korey

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 Posted: Sun Apr 4th, 2021 02:56 pm
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Happy Easter Korey,
Are you talking four or six wing?  My four is 16 inch but my six is 15 inch. 
They also made a 6 wing in 16 inch. Don't think they made a 5 wing version in this one.

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Bill Hoehn wrote: Don't think they made a 5 wing version in this one.




1898 back switch introduction Emerson induction desk fans were offered in 12" and 15" models. Only the 12" model was offered with 5 wings. The 15" was offered with 4 wings. 

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Four blades 15” is fine, I guess I didn’t research the catalog close enough.  If I had a paper tracing that would work too.

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Russ, 
The F. I. 2. in the 1898 model was made with a 16-inch blade ( 4 wing) as pictured on page 29 of the 1898 catalog!

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Bill Hoehn wrote: Russ, 
The F. I. 2. in the 1898 model was made with a 16-inch blade ( 4 wing) as pictured on page 29 of the 1898 catalog!



Does the 98 catalogue offer 12", 15", and 16" desk fans, or only 12" and 16"?































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Russ Huber
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99 was the introduction of the patented Emerson scalloped wing blade  The 5 wing scalloped blade was a 99 sensation. 1900 electrical trade has Emerson desk fans with 12", 15", and 16" blades.

Why did the Gemerson use a 99 4 wing?? Why not 5 wing?












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Russ,
With your youth and recognized expertise, maybe you can straighten the rest of us out as to when these new Parker blades could be dated if they are marked "Patent Pending" or "Patent Applied For". 
I've had both and other strange markings. 

Incidentally the first residence fan introduced by Emerson in 1900 was a 16 inch 4 wing model that ran at one-half speed. I think all of their later residence fans are 6 wing, don't you?

For 1901 they list 23 distinct types and sizes of fans from 12 inch to 56 inch including an 18 inch. Of these they made over 200 varieties. Got to get back to work!

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Bill Hoehn wrote: Incidentally the first residence fan introduced by Emerson in 1900 was a 16 inch 4 wing model that ran at one-half speed. I think all of their later residence fans are 6 wing, don't you?




The 1900 detailed Emerson fan motor article in electrical trade does not support an Emerson residence desk fan motor, or describe one for that matter. 1900 supports 12", 15", and 16" desk fans for 60 and 133 cycles. If your catalogue material clearly supports a residence desk fan, could you please share and image of that page to validate your claim?


1903 clearly supports the introduction of Emerson 6 wing 6 pole residence desk fans both 12" and 16" based on surfaced examples and validated in electrical trade. 

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Bill Hoehn wrote: Russ,
Maybe you can straighten the rest of us out as to when these new Parker blades could be dated if they are marked "Patent Pending" or "Patent Applied For". 
I've had both and other strange markings. 



Patent pending or patent applied for is simply the period of time between the patent filing date and its issue date.  The blade patent was filed at the tail end of 98 fan motor season and issued at the tail end of 99 fan motor season.








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The 99 Emerson blade has a high probability of being stamped patent pending or applied for.







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Stamped patented in 1900 as the patent was issued Sept. of 99.









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Since not all patents applied for are issued, doesn't it make sense that  "Patent Pending" would infer that it was planned and therefore a step beyond just "Patent Applied For" and a different date?  It's been a while since I've checked Emerson's and my patent records. 

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Bill Hoehn wrote: Since not all patents applied for are issued, doesn't it make sense that  "Patent Pending" would infer that it was planned and therefore a step beyond just "Patent Applied For" and a different date? 
One can make it real easy.  Starting Sept. 9th of 1898 through Sept.12th of 1899, The new Parker blade could only sport patent pending or patent applied for stamping on the wing.


Your 99 DC GE Emerson with Parker blade is testament to that.  

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Russ Huber
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Bill Hoehn wrote:

Incidentally the first residence fan introduced by Emerson in 1900 was a 16 inch 4 wing model that ran at one-half speed. 





Not one peep of an Emerson 16" residence fan motor in 1900.







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Mean while
Try this link

we did a blade order couple of years ago  I belive the one you are looking for is #12  on the graph pics of all blades available

http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=49465&forum_id=2&highlight=+blade+order+jim+roadt

Let me know if you need anything else

PM may work best

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Correction we did not make a 16" bullwinkle blade
we made 16 inch Emerson 4 blade and 6 blade  ( look  like a beaver tail )

 On the blade ordering post #12,#13,#14 are all 12 " bullwinkle

#1 and #2 are are the 16 " 4 and 5 blade emersons

I do have the original graph tracings of all those blade but none of the one you are looking for


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