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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 12:38 am |
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Tom Dreesen AFCA Member ![]()
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If you really care about ownership of digital images, you need to at least come into the 20th Century. https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/what-is-digital-watermarking Attached Image (viewed 1379 times):
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 01:13 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Hi Tom, I have no desire to return to the twentieth century. Are you the intellectual property attorney looking for business that your link referred to? Since I'm now at that senile age I just wanted to make it easy to recognize my material before the hackers played with it. Thanks for the continued education. Bill
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 01:45 am |
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Tom Dreesen AFCA Member ![]()
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Bill Hoehn wrote: Hi Tom, Well Bill, if you want to pay me for your continuing education credits, I will gladly accept. I quickly and easily removed your *mark* from the photo. Although there are those who can remove digital watermarks, most won't bother under the *fair use* standards. If you want to lay claim to your scans, try: http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/how-to-make-a-watermark/ Last edited on Mon Aug 10th, 2015 01:46 am by Tom Dreesen |
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 01:54 am |
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Gary Hagan Guest ![]()
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Digital skid marks. That's an idea!
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 02:01 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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You lost me Gary. The only skid marks I leave are with my '69 Dodge Charger Daytona, my '06 Dodge Magnum SRT-8 or with my 1200+HP supercharged Hemi that's not in anything at the moment!
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 02:46 am |
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Gary Hagan Guest ![]()
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My coworker Rick is selling his 70 Cuda AAR. If I could just come up with $85,000 I'd be a happy guy. Impressive Bill. I love old Mopars Attached Image (viewed 1355 times): Last edited on Mon Aug 10th, 2015 02:48 am by Gary Hagan |
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 05:24 am |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member ![]()
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Bill Hoehn wrote: Russ, Please, at your convenience if you can find details on the black finish Emerson used that would be great. Someone here has concocted a nice batch of asphaltum japan.
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 08:06 pm |
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Fred Berry Guest ![]()
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I've shown my hub in past posts. Here it is again. Looks almost crowded, but definite Straight & Angle cuts on each base. My interest here is the 12", as I assume the 16" or different. Bill, how about the struts on your 1310 fans. Are they simple straight or later Emerson bend? Attached Image (viewed 1316 times):
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 02:58 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Proof of where I went today. Quincy, Ill. with "Master Metal Man" Nick loos. Overall shot graciously taken by Dianna Attached Image (viewed 1293 times):
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 03:01 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Details of the reason for the visit and why we're so happy to be done with the project. Attached Image (viewed 1296 times):
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 03:03 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Hey George! I had it upright! Attached Image (viewed 1302 times):
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 03:06 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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That one too---I hate computers! Details should be correct. Attached Image (viewed 1272 times):
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 03:07 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 03:09 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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& last---no serial numbers on 29048s Attached Image (viewed 1295 times):
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 04:13 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Fred, My 1310 has the wrong struts that I made and have not replaced yet. On close evaluation I find all 12" fans before the 1610, and all 16" fans before the 1820 have the straight struts. It is logical because they are both from 1906 when they converted all of their fans to the convertible base. All later Emerson fans had the curved "later" struts.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 04:20 am |
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David Foster AFCA Member ![]()
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Wow! Nick sure did a great job. That chrome is just like a mirror. You'll have to be careful as that reflection could start a fire. Beautiful. Please tell Laverne hello for Besty and I. Take care.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 07:01 pm |
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Fred Berry Guest ![]()
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Bill Hoehn wrote: Fred,Bill, many thanks!! I have had other collectors try to tell me that the later curved struts did come on the 1310. Now I know better!! Again is good to know that my 1310 is totally factory except for the power cord, head wire and RP turbine oil. Although lacking oscillation like the later 12666, I stick to my guns that the 1310 is the prettiest of all antique fans for shape and style.←Just my opinion, only a true fact for 1310 owners who have love affairs with their fanz.
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 04:40 pm |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Two new missing links found yesterday! First a new power source for my battery fans. Its unmarked, but I think it's a Bing. Attached Image (viewed 1260 times):
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 04:42 pm |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 04:43 pm |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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& dynamo. Attached Image (viewed 1264 times):
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 04:44 pm |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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The other is my new non-Harbor Freight buffer- Attached Image (viewed 1222 times):
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 04:46 pm |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Tag-1/4 HP about 60#, Attached Image (viewed 1239 times):
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 04:47 pm |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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& switch. Attached Image (viewed 1207 times):
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 05:19 pm |
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George Durbin AFCA Member ![]()
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HI Doc! Better get your glasses fixed! That don't say Habour Freight! ;) Geo...
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 05:31 pm |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member ![]()
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Your grinder may date mid to late 20s....+ Notice the rotary switch in 1921. Attached Image (viewed 1237 times):
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 05:39 pm |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member ![]()
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Chuck Hisey was into reloading guns before grinders. BTW........that is 3 engineers so far from Kentucky assigned to a business in Cincinnati. Charles Ryder of Covington Kentucky designed the Victor fan motor features(breeze spreader, Luminaire) George Card of Covington, Kentucky to Card Electric(fan motor) Charles Hisey of Dayton, Kentucky https://www.google.com/patents/US480015?dq=480015&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAWoVChMI5cKsvuCjxwIVClaSCh1tNgpa Attached Image (viewed 1214 times):
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 05:41 pm |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member ![]()
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You have some searching to do in Missouri, Bill. Here is one, if not the one of the first Hisey bench grinders. https://www.google.com/patents/US712537?dq=Charles+S.+Hisey&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFUQ6AEwCGoVChMI04zWqd-jxwIVk1iSCh0p2w8Z Attached Image (viewed 1258 times):
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 06:48 pm |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Russ, Thanks for the info---I notice they start at 1/2 HP and mine is 1/4. I haven't forgotten about the paint---still researching and am back to 1772 when National Lead started in Philly. It became National Lead Company in 1891 and Dutch Boy Paints in 1907. That's what it was when I posted my previous experiences but now can't find. Pontypool japan is related to the Japan Black or just japan.
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 07:29 pm |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member ![]()
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Hisey had more toys, Bill. Keep your eyes peeled for their early drills. Attached Image (viewed 1227 times):
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Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 01:49 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Russ, Haven't checked my early drills yet to see if I have a Hisey, but have been working more on the japan and suppliers. I still haven't found the main source I'm looking for but am ready to start. Emerson, like Henry Ford, obviously used the japan because it was the only thing that would dry fast enough. As Henry said you could get the early Fords in any color as long as it was black. The other finishes at the time took a week to dry. One thing I haven't seen on the forum, but I may have missed it, is that the early Emerson's were all dipped to apply the japan. That's the only explanation for the unpainted centers inside the bases of many of the early models. The trapped air left a level ring unless they inserted it so as to avoid this. Since National Lead was so big back then they probably supplied the japan for Emerson, but I've never been able to document that. I've reported in detail when they went to DuPont's Duco because they insisted on being given credit for their product. Again I've previously told about my good friend who was the Dutch Boy, at the appropriate age, to represent the company. That's the reason I have collected a lot of Dutch Boy merchandise. Here is some of it. First the basic white lead. The larger metal containers held 100#. I don't know how much the wood keg held. Attached Image (viewed 1159 times):
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Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 01:52 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Next is a variety of their solders, soldering paste and advertising piece. Attached Image (viewed 1166 times):
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Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 01:54 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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For a little heavier work---the older members may remember seeing the dents in their cars filled with this type of lead. Attached Image (viewed 1176 times):
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Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 01:57 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Ingots for heavier wok---each handle and link weighs five pounds. Attached Image (viewed 1165 times):
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Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 02:00 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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The specialized ingots I think are the most attractive---Solder, Beraring Babbittt, Special Heavy etc. Attached Image (viewed 1181 times): Last edited on Sat Aug 15th, 2015 02:01 am by Bill Hoehn |
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Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 02:03 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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This salesman's book is nice but has little info to help. Attached Image (viewed 1155 times):
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Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 02:04 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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Inside the front cover. Attached Image (viewed 1158 times):
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Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 02:06 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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One reference to the importance of the drier. Attached Image (viewed 1183 times):
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Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 02:09 am |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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And last ---a beautiful paperweight with color that I can't believe from the 1800s. I hope it turns like it is supposed to. Oh well! Attached Image (viewed 1170 times): Last edited on Sat Aug 15th, 2015 02:10 am by Bill Hoehn |
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2015 01:50 pm |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member ![]()
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I'm just curious about why there are approximately 1400 hits on this thread in the past two days and not one reply? I can see now why many members tell me it isn't worth the time and trouble to get involved with this forum! I think I know why, but what about other opinions?
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Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2015 02:25 pm |
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This thread has about 1400 replies total, but only 45 or so views over the last couple days. Your thread is a golden recollection of many great fans and other items. Folks like to read this thread for all of its great content, but I think many feel like they would disrespect this great thread by adding an amateurish comment.
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