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 Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 01:38 am
   
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Tom Dreesen
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If you really care about ownership of digital images, you need to at least come into the 20th Century.
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/what-is-digital-watermarking

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 Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 02:13 am
   
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Hi Tom,

I have no desire to return to the twentieth century.

Are you the intellectual property attorney looking for business that your link referred to?

Since I'm now at that senile age I just wanted to make it easy to recognize my material before the hackers played with it.

Thanks for the continued education.

Bill 

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 Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 02:45 am
   
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Bill Hoehn wrote: Hi Tom,

I have no desire to return to the twentieth century.

Are you the intellectual property attorney looking for business that your link referred to?

Since I'm now at that senile age I just wanted to make it easy to recognize my material before the hackers played with it.

Thanks for the continued education.

Bill 

Well Bill, if you want to pay me for your continuing education credits, I will gladly accept.
I quickly and easily removed your *mark* from the photo.  Although there are those who can remove digital watermarks, most won't bother under the *fair use* standards.  If you want to lay claim to your scans, try:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/how-to-make-a-watermark/

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 Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 02:54 am
   
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Digital skid marks. That's an idea!

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 Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 03:01 am
   
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You lost me Gary.

The only skid marks I leave are with my '69 Dodge Charger Daytona, my '06 Dodge Magnum SRT-8 or with my 1200+HP supercharged Hemi that's not in anything at the moment!

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 Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 03:46 am
   
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My coworker Rick is selling his 70 Cuda AAR. If I could just come up with $85,000 I'd be a happy guy. Impressive Bill. I love old Mopars

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 Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 06:24 am
   
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Bill Hoehn wrote: Russ,

I've posted some detail about Emerson's finishes in the past and I have more on the Japanning , but can't locate it at the moment.

Please, at your convenience if you can find details on the black finish Emerson used that would be great. Someone here has concocted a nice batch of asphaltum japan.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2015 09:06 pm
   
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I've shown my hub in past posts. Here it is again. Looks almost crowded, but definite Straight & Angle cuts on each base. My interest here is the 12", as I assume the 16" or different.

Bill, how about the struts on your 1310 fans. Are they simple straight or later Emerson bend?

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 Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 03:58 am
   
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Proof of where I went today. Quincy, Ill. with "Master Metal Man" Nick loos.

Overall shot graciously taken by Dianna

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 Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 04:01 am
   
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Details of the reason for the visit and why we're so happy to be done with the project.

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 Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 04:03 am
   
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Bill Hoehn
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Hey George! I had it upright!

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 Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 04:06 am
   
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That one too---I hate computers! 

Details should be correct.

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 Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 04:07 am
   
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 Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 04:09 am
   
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& last---no serial numbers on 29048s 

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 Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 05:13 am
   
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Fred,

My 1310 has the wrong struts that I made and have not replaced yet.  On close evaluation I find all 12" fans before the 1610, and all 16" fans before the 1820 have the straight struts.

It is logical because they are both from 1906 when they converted all of their fans to the convertible base.

All later Emerson fans had the curved "later" struts.

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 Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 05:20 am
   
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Wow!
Nick sure did a great job. That chrome is just like a mirror. You'll have to be careful as that reflection could start a fire. Beautiful. Please tell Laverne hello for Besty and I. Take care. 

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 Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2015 08:01 pm
   
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Bill Hoehn wrote: Fred,

My 1310 has the wrong struts that I made and have not replaced yet.  On close evaluation I find all 12" fans before the 1610, and all 16" fans before the 1820 have the straight struts.

It is logical because they are both from 1906 when they converted all of their fans to the convertible base.

All later Emerson fans had the curved "later" struts.
Bill, many thanks!!

I have had other collectors try to tell me that the later curved struts did come on the 1310. Now I know better!!

Again is good to know that my 1310 is totally factory except for the power cord, head wire and RP turbine oil.

Although lacking oscillation like the later 12666, I stick to my guns that the 1310 is the prettiest of all antique fans for shape and  style.←Just my opinion, only a true fact for 1310 owners who have love affairs with their fanz.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 05:40 pm
   
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Two new missing links found yesterday!

First a new power source for my battery fans. Its unmarked, but I think it's a Bing.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 05:42 pm
   
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Engine-

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 05:43 pm
   
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& dynamo.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 05:44 pm
   
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The other is my new non-Harbor Freight buffer-

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 05:46 pm
   
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Tag-1/4 HP about 60#,

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 05:47 pm
   
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& switch.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 06:19 pm
   
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HI Doc!
Better get your glasses fixed! That don't say Habour Freight!  ;)
Geo...

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 06:31 pm
   
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Your grinder may date mid to late 20s....+ Notice the rotary switch in 1921.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 06:39 pm
   
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Chuck Hisey was into reloading guns before grinders.

BTW........that is 3 engineers so far from Kentucky assigned to a business in Cincinnati.

Charles Ryder of Covington Kentucky designed the Victor fan motor features(breeze spreader, Luminaire)

George Card of Covington, Kentucky to Card Electric(fan motor)

Charles Hisey of Dayton, Kentucky

https://www.google.com/patents/US480015?dq=480015&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAWoVChMI5cKsvuCjxwIVClaSCh1tNgpa

 

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 06:41 pm
   
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You have some searching to do in Missouri, Bill. Here is one, if not the one of the first Hisey bench grinders.

https://www.google.com/patents/US712537?dq=Charles+S.+Hisey&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFUQ6AEwCGoVChMI04zWqd-jxwIVk1iSCh0p2w8Z

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 07:48 pm
   
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Russ,
Thanks for the info---I notice they start at 1/2 HP and mine is 1/4.
I haven't forgotten about the paint---still researching and am back to 1772 when National Lead started in Philly. It became National Lead Company in 1891 and Dutch Boy Paints in 1907. That's what it was when I posted my previous experiences but now can't find.
Pontypool japan is related to the Japan Black or just japan.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2015 08:29 pm
   
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Hisey had more toys, Bill. Keep your eyes peeled for their early drills. 

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 02:49 am
   
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Russ,

Haven't checked my early drills yet to see if I have a Hisey, but have been working more on the japan and suppliers.  I still haven't found the main source I'm looking for but am ready to start.

Emerson, like Henry Ford, obviously used the japan because it was the only thing that would dry fast enough.  As Henry said you could get the early Fords in any color as long as it was black.  The other finishes at the time took a week to dry.

One thing I haven't seen on the forum, but I may have missed it, is that the early Emerson's were all dipped to apply the japan.  That's the only explanation for the unpainted centers inside the bases of many of the early models.  The trapped air left a level ring unless they inserted it so as to avoid this.

Since National Lead was so big back then they probably supplied the japan for Emerson, but I've never been able to document that.  I've reported in detail when they went to DuPont's Duco because they insisted on being given credit for their product.

Again I've previously told about my good friend who was the Dutch Boy, at the appropriate age, to represent the company.  That's the reason I have collected a lot of Dutch Boy merchandise.  Here is some of it.

First the basic white lead.  The larger metal containers held 100#.  I don't know how much the wood keg held.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 02:52 am
   
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Next is a variety of their solders, soldering paste and advertising piece.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 02:54 am
   
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For a little heavier work---the older members may remember seeing the dents in their cars filled with this type of lead.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 02:57 am
   
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Ingots for heavier wok---each handle and link weighs five pounds.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 03:00 am
   
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The specialized ingots I think are the most attractive---Solder, Beraring Babbittt, Special Heavy etc.

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This salesman's book is nice but has little info to help.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2015 03:04 am
   
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Inside the front cover.

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One reference to the importance of the drier.

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And last ---a beautiful paperweight with color that I can't believe from the 1800s. I hope it turns like it is supposed to.  Oh well!

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I'm just curious about why there are approximately 1400 hits on this thread in the past two days and not one reply?

I can see now why many members tell me it isn't worth the time and trouble to get involved with this forum!

I think I know why, but what about other opinions?

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 Posted: Tue Aug 18th, 2015 03:25 pm
   
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This thread has about 1400 replies total, but only 45 or so views over the last couple days. 

Your thread is a golden recollection of many great fans and other items. Folks like to read this thread for all of its great content, but I think many feel like they would disrespect this great thread by adding an amateurish comment. 

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