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 Posted: Sun Nov 21st, 2021 02:50 am
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Susan Guinn
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Any ideas on what type of fan this belongs to?  Trust me I have many parts that I need help with ... :D




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 Posted: Sun Nov 21st, 2021 04:00 am
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A GE Pancake, a later model I believe. Perhaps '05 or '06?

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 Posted: Mon Nov 22nd, 2021 03:10 am
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That'd be a 1907 or 1908 pancake, I believe. Maybe a very late 1906 at the earliest. 1906 and before had more decoration on the motor cover.

We're happy to help identify your other parts as well.


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 Posted: Mon Nov 22nd, 2021 03:40 am
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Susan Guinn
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Thank you Noah, I really appreciate it!!I have another one I found that is similar.  Curious to find out if it is a GE as well.   Both appear that they have never been painted.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 22nd, 2021 04:46 am
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Here's the back side of an '06 GE pancake trunion from the galleries, which looks to be like what you have in the photo, above.
https://www.fancollectors.org/Ge1/Images/1906trb.jpg

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 Posted: Mon Nov 22nd, 2021 04:03 pm
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Steve Stephens article on pancakes is very informative. If you scroll down to the 1906 and 1907 pancakes, you can read about the differences. According to him, the 1906 design (shown in the picture below) may have been changed to the 1907 design late in 1906. However, he also states that the 1906 struts were steel, except for some of the early 1906 ones. The gallery 1906 pancake has the early brass struts as well as the late smooth motor; a combination I wouldn't think would be original, unless GE was using up old stock brass struts. I think the tell for if the gallery 1906 is really a late 1906, or if it's a 1907 would be if it has steel or brass yoke pivot screws. From Steve's site: "1907. . . The trunnion pivot screws were now made of steel instead of brass."

https://earlyfans.blogspot.com/2011/02/ge-pancake-1894-1908.html


Since the regular 1906 models had the ornate motor, I would say Susan's motor housing would most likely belong on either a late 1906, 1907, or 1908 pancake.

Here is a regular 1906 pancake, from Steve's article.






I would like to hear some of the experts' (Kim Frank, Steve Stephens etc.) thoughts on the 12" 1906(?) gallery pancake. I'm relatively new at figuring out pancakes, and I get everything I know from what I've read from others.



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 Posted: Mon Nov 22nd, 2021 11:26 pm
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Noah Britt wrote [highlight= rgb(248, 248, 248);]I would like to hear some of the experts' (Kim Frank, Steve Stephens etc.) thoughts on the 12" 1906(?) gallery pancake. I'm relatively new at figuring out pancakes, and I get everything I know from what I've read from others.[highlight= rgb(248, 248, 248);]

[highlight= rgb(248, 248, 248);]I have pictured the 12" 1906 pancake from our gallery-
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[highlight= rgb(248, 248, 248);]This is either a late 1906 model and would have the same motor casting as the 1906-1908 trunnion models.   1907-08 would use different struts with a single flat head screw to lock the cage in place on the special struts used those two years.   Late 06 through 08 used the smoother casting design than earlier models.   1908 stick mounts seem to be different (and ugly I think) but they are rarely seen.   The 06 gallery pancake seems to be correct at a quick look; I have only pre-1906 models in my own collection so may not be up on all the differences among the 1906-08 models.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 23rd, 2021 01:35 am
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Thanks for the info. My thought was that since the brass struts seem to be only for early 1906, and the smooth motor only for late 1906, that the struts might not be correct for the fan, introducing the possibility that the fan is later than 1906.

Since the order of manufacture for 1906 was; ornate motor with brass struts, ornate motor with steel struts (regular 1906), and then plain motor with steel struts, it seems odd that there would be a pancake with both brass struts and a plain motor. 


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 Posted: Tue Nov 23rd, 2021 02:38 am
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Remember that all old fans do not remain with their original parts.   That could be the case with these pancakes.  When I buy I try to be as certain as I can that all parts are original, unrestored or not repainted.   Not always foolproof but it goes a long way to getting an original fan.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 24th, 2021 02:04 am
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Susan Guinn
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I am a new member, have not rec'd the magazine or info yet, but will surely go there when they allow me to.Thanks.

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