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Museum quality MESCO Model Number 1. Runs perfectly. $2,500 includes shipping. 

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Excellent example!

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Thanks Steve . . . I have never seen a MESCO model 1 in as good of condition as this fan. Would be a perfect addition to anyone wanting to collect all 3 the MESCO Models. 

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I have a Manhattan no 1 with a different blade that I acquired some years ago that Russ dated to be 1897, 1898.  Was this fan manufactured then?  Russ do you know if all of the Manhattan number 1 fans were manufactured at once or over a time period? It’s also interesting the foresight in naming them with the intent of future models, was there a prototype for a “Manhattan no. 4”?

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I've always considered the 4 inch models to be the smallest of the electric fans--until now!
Listed in the 1899 catalog of Commercial Electrical Supply Co. of St. Louis is their group of battery fans by Porter Motors with the fan diameters for each model;
Ajax  = 3 1/2 inch
Porter No 1 = 4 inch (3 wing)
Porter No 2 = 5    "
Porter No 6 = 6    "
Porter No 3 = 8    "
Porter No 4 = 10  "

Does anyone know who made the similar battery motor tagged "Little Hustler"?

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Bill Hoehn wrote: I've always considered the 4 inch models to be the smallest of the electric fans--until now!
Listed in the 1899 catalog of Commercial Electrical Supply Co. of St. Louis is their group of battery fans by Porter Motors with the fan diameters for each model;
Ajax  = 3 1/2 inch
Porter No 1 = 4 inch (3 wing)
Porter No 2 = 5    "
Porter No 6 = 6    "
Porter No 3 = 8    "
Porter No 4 = 10  "

Does anyone know who made the similar battery motor tagged "Little Hustler"?
I'm pretty sure Knapp made Little Hustler.

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Thanks Tom, 
I have quite a few Knapp's in my several dozens of battery fans and motors but none of them look similar.
I wouldn't have guessed that.
The most similar looking are the Tesla, Ajax, Rex, Porter and Manhattan.

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It’s been my long held theory that at some point, Mesco went from a four screw tag, to two screws. Unfortunately Mesco used line drawings, so that detail can’t be made out.

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So the first fans had 4 screws holding the motor tags? . . . but no dates of manufacture for these are known?

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I’ll look. I have two Manhattan catalogs.
The tag theory mine. That tag doesn’t need four screws. The Manhattan #3 also went from four screws to two. It’s cheaper not to drill and tap two holes.

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Earliest Manhattan No.1 advertisement I am aware of is 95 shown below.







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Here it is again in a 1902-03 Mesco No. 14 catalogue.













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Here it is again offered in 1907 when you open the book link.

Popular Mechanics - Google Books

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This one appears in 08 electrical trade.







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Chad is advertising his No. 1 example on his website for 1900.  What dates his example for 1900?



1900 Manhattan No.1 DC 5" Desk Fan Original - antiquefanparts


I posted these images below of the 1902-03 No. 14 Mesco catalogue in past. 










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All three images above dating 1895, 1902-03, and 1907 are the same image as the 95 image. So how to h ell do you date these fans spanning 1895-1907? Anyone have ephemera to help date them for exclusive years? 

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Terry Fisher wrote: Museum quality MESCO Model Number 1. Runs perfectly. $2,500 includes shipping. 

Good luck with your sale!

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Russ,
Thanks for all of the MESCO information.

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Terry Fisher wrote: Russ,
Thanks for all of the MESCO information.


Sorry about all the mess on your BST posting.   :D  Despite being on the market at least 12 years these don't pop up very often. I don't have one.  Menominee had a battery fan on the market in the teens. I have not heard of one surfacing, not one. Your Manhattan dates well before the teens, and a pristine example at that. 

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Steve Cunningham wrote: I’ll look. I have two Manhattan catalogs.
The tag theory mine. That tag doesn’t need four screws. The Manhattan #3 also went from four screws to two. It’s cheaper not to drill and tap two holes.

Steve did you get a chance to look at your catalogs?  Other than the elimination of two tag screws what differences are there between a Manhattan 1 and Manhattan 2&3?

Thanks Russ also, I find it interesting they were produced, or for sale for 12 years, seems like a lot of time but may be my 100 year difference in perspective.

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Rick,
Look at the MESCO fans in the Galleries. Those 3 fans are completely different. 

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Thanks Terry, up until now I never thought of looking in the gallery and had only seen a #3 stump for some obscure reason.

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The 1, 2, and 3 were all different fans. All three used the fan body as magnetic field. So battery power went to the armature.

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