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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 01:29 am
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Brandon Tuomikoski
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Looking at buying my first vintage fan. Its a Dayton 16" desktop. Model 367.

It works. But I have not seen it, or examined it in person. As being a young, beginner fan collector, I dont know anything about them... yet. :D

So I would like to know a bit more on this fan. Is it worth roughly $50?

Does this fan oscillate and have different speeds?

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Brandon Tuomikoski

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 01:31 am
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 01:41 am
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It might be worth $50, but those have a pot metal pivot on them and most of the ones I have seen are broken. I would look at it in person to make sure it works properly before I purchase it.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 01:44 am
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Ah yes. He had stated that the pivot was broken unfortunately. Is it still fixable or even useable? Or should I offer lower, or just flat out wait for another fan?

Thanks!

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 01:46 am
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I do not know if it oscillates, but I can tell by that black speed control lever/switch that you have different speeds on the fan. How many? Probably 3 speeds. Can't help you on the price, no clue.:idea

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 01:55 am
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Brandon Tuomikoski wrote:
Ah yes. He had stated that the pivot was broken unfortunately. Is it still fixable or even useable? Or should I offer lower, or just flat out wait for another fan?

Thanks!


I saw one identical this summer. Guess what the issue was...pivot knuckle was fractured and the fan head and base were seperate. I have a Wagner Electric 12" with a fractured POT METAL pivot knuckle. I have been waiting to knab another pivot knuckle from a bomber for...hmmmmm...7-8 years? :wondering:

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 02:04 am
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It's a well built fan with a good motor design - if the pot metal section that

holds the motor shaft is ok, you can likely improvise a pivot point

for the oscillator arm screw.  If the blades are ok and the fan runs

on all speeds Get it if you like its looks.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 02:08 am
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Brandon Tuomikoski
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YEa. Im a big fan of the brass bladed fans, and this is a nice bigger one, so I may consider it if he will come down a little bit in price.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 02:12 am
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If you are "inexperienced"....make sure if the fan is an oscillator...your pivot knuckle is not a fractured mess. If it's cracked and the pieces are there...theres hope.

Pssssst.....JB weld. :D

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 02:14 am
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Brandon Tuomikoski
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Yes I will for sure check that. As well as if its working properly.

How loud would these fans be? What sorta sounds should I look for if it has something wrong with it?


I know how to judge a vacuum if its going bad, but not fans yet!

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 02:23 am
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You will have a hard time finding the pivot part. If it is broken I would not pay a lot it.

Looks like a parts fan to me if the pivot is broken $10. Listen to Russ he can't find a part for his after 7 years.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 02:25 am
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If it trips your trigger...you only live once dude. At max it's $50....not $500. Just nail a part time job at Hardees. :D

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 02:28 am
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maybe it just be a good fan for a first resto. So I can get an idea what I have to do for the next projects. And it will just be a display fan. Maybe just sit it on a shelf or atop my old piano.

Either way if I can get it for cheap, I will do some sort of partial restoration for it, and see if its at all fixable.

:idea

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 02:36 am
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Brandon Tuomikoski wrote:
maybe it just be a good fan for a first resto. So I can get an idea what I have to do for the next projects. And it will just be a display fan. Maybe just sit it on a shelf or atop my old piano.

Either way if I can get it for cheap, I will do some sort of partial restoration for it, and see if its at all fixable.

:idea


If the fan doesn't work out for you, come back here and send me a private message by clicking on my name. :up:

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 02:38 am
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Will do!

Thank you all for the info! I will let you all know what happens tomorrow with it.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 05:47 am
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Personally if you could get it alittle cheaper, I would say grab it! It may not be $10 but it ain't no $100. I am sure you could work something out with JB Weld as one of the other members said.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 05:53 am
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It looks like I will be getting it tomorrow!

How old is this fan roughly? Was this an expensive fan for its time?

I guess a small history lesson of the company would be helpful!

Thanks!

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 06:07 am
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Brandon Tuomikoski wrote: It looks like I will be getting it tomorrow!

How old is this fan roughly? Was this an expensive fan for its time?

I guess a small history lesson of the company would be helpful!

Thanks!

I don't know much but this fan looks to have a steel cage. Maybe late late teens and upto mid to late twenties. My personal guess would be early to mid twenties. I doubt it is later than that especially if it is a true brass blade fan and not painted.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 06:15 am
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Really! Cool. I didn't think it would have been quite this old.

I will for sure check if those blades are real brass.

What do you all recommend to bring them back to a new high shine gold finish?

As always. Thanks!

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 10:11 pm
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If the pivots broken than I dont think its worth it but thats my opinion. Yeah as people previously said, these fans have weak neck joints. I got one a few months ago for $5 and someone actually replaced it with a solid steel neck piece and its very professional for something made in someone's garage. Just wish he was still around to tell us how he made these.:violin:

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 10:23 pm
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Brandon, I think its from the 20's. Dayton is still around making fans so they must be doing something right. There are about 20 Dayton pedestal fans in the manufacturing area where I work, and I must admit, they take a lot of abuse and keep on running.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 10:39 pm
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Well I got it.

Its in excellent condition. Just dirty. Plugged it in with its 20 some foot cord :D

And it runs like a champ! I turned it on all the way, cause I wasn't paying attention, and that was low speed, thinking it was in high speed, i was still impressed as it moved more air than my current desk fan!

Its a great fan! And I can tell I am going to enjoy it! Even with the broken pivot, I like it. It will most definitely be a display one.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 10:40 pm
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Here is the joint. Sorry for the dirtyness! I have yet to take it apart.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 10:41 pm
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Here is the plate on it.

Btw- are all old fans this heavy???? When I lifted it, I way underestimated its weight! No wonder the joints broke fairly easily.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 11:17 pm
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Brandon Tuomikoski wrote:
Btw- are all old fans this heavy???? When I lifted it, I way underestimated its weight!

Brandon, some are heavier. I'm not sure but I think yours is steel. Earlier fans are cast iron.  One of my big cast iron fans weighs about 24 pounds

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 11:26 pm
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Brandon Tuomikoski wrote: Here is the plate on it.

Btw- are all old fans this heavy???? When I lifted it, I way underestimated its weight! No wonder the joints broke fairly easily.

Alot of these older fans are very heavy but also very well built. Many if not all run better than the garbage you buy in the stores today. Some of my daily runners are much older than me. It is a shame that some used pot metal though.

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Brandon Tuomikoski wrote: Btw- are all old fans this heavy???? When I lifted it, I way underestimated its weight! No wonder the joints broke fairly easily.
The heaviest fan I have is 35 pounds.(Emerson 73668) those 16" big motor Emersons in cast iron are hard to beat in weight (at least for table top fans)

My GE AOU and my Emerson 73648 are a little lighter than that but not by much.  Even the Vortalex fans are at least 15 to 20 pounds (but a LOT easier to carry around than my cast iron fans.)

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its probably worth 45$ to 50$. :D

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Yea. I still have to get it fixed and try and get the blades off. The cord is still toast.

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