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 Posted: Sun Apr 3rd, 2011 06:41 am
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Ron Jeter
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Steve: As I thought, you have nothing in writing/documents/photos to prove these facts, only speculation and hand-me-down info and can you furnish proof that your fans are original?

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 Posted: Sun Apr 3rd, 2011 06:45 am
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Yes, I have a certificate of authenticity for all my fans from all the sellers I bought them from, or nearly all.  I do believe you did not furnish me with a certificate with the fans I bought from you.  Good Enough for me.

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 Posted: Sun Apr 3rd, 2011 06:51 am
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Steve: I bet its like those coins, and stamps you get off the TV ads and they always have the same certificate -- Hey, would you be interested in buying some beach front property in Kansas and I will give you a certificate to prove it!!!

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 Posted: Sun Apr 3rd, 2011 07:07 am
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I  think my fan certificates are issued by the same company as for coins and beachfront Kansas property.  They are legit, aren't they?  Gee, I hope so as I have a lot invested in my fans.  I'd hate to find out what I think is patina is really polish residue.

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 Posted: Sun Apr 3rd, 2011 07:38 am
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Problem Solved -- Steve: Let me know how many of these you need - going to the printers Tuesday.

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 Posted: Sun Apr 3rd, 2011 07:50 am
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Oh, god, that's an ugly certificate.

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 Posted: Sun Apr 3rd, 2011 07:57 am
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Good Night STEVE.

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 Posted: Sun Apr 3rd, 2011 01:48 pm
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I have a suggestion. Agree to disagree.

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 Posted: Sun Apr 3rd, 2011 05:07 pm
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Steve Stephens wrote: Why would GE make a pancake, Type UI Form F9 with a June 25, 1901 patent date on the tag? That's a 1900 model, right? 1901 would be a Type A_ Form A right?

So how does a 1901 patent date get on a 1900 fan that appears completely original?Or just let's guess a logical reason cause what I see is for real, especially on my 1900 model with the 1901 patent date. No question it's a 1900 model made in the last half of 1901. However, the serial number 181508 on that fan places it as being made in 1904. Anyone have an idea of how that fan came to be? A back switch, smooth motor that was made in 1904? GE did some things that do not compute if you are trying to compute from what they USUALLY did.

My 1900 trunnion is type UI form E9 with a no. 45111. Puts it squarely in the early part of 1900. Last patent date on tag is May 27, '90. My stickmount is type UI form F with a no. 132920, putting it late in the 1902 production run. Last patent date on tag is June 25, 1901. Both fans have the earmarks that make up a 1900 fan. No explaining it, but if I had to..........Aliens did it.....  Hey Ron, I need thirty eight of those certificates and a letter of authenticity that my smooth base '99 belonged to Abe Lincoln.......

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 Posted: Sun Apr 3rd, 2011 08:28 pm
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Kim Frank wrote:
Steve Stephens wrote: Why would GE make a pancake, Type UI Form F9 with a June 25, 1901 patent date on the tag? That's a 1900 model, right? 1901 would be a Type A_ Form A right?

So how does a 1901 patent date get on a 1900 fan that appears completely original?Or just let's guess a logical reason cause what I see is for real, especially on my 1900 model with the 1901 patent date. No question it's a 1900 model made in the last half of 1901. However, the serial number 181508 on that fan places it as being made in 1904. Anyone have an idea of how that fan came to be? A back switch, smooth motor that was made in 1904? GE did some things that do not compute if you are trying to compute from what they USUALLY did.

My 1900 trunnion is type UI form E9 with a no. 45111. Puts it squarely in the early part of 1900. Last patent date on tag is May 27, '90. My stickmount is type UI form F with a no. 132920, putting it late in the 1902 production run. Last patent date on tag is June 25, 1901. Both fans have the earmarks that make up a 1900 fan. No explaining it, but if I had to..........Aliens did it.....  Hey Ron, I need thirty eight of those certificates and a letter of authenticity that my smooth base '99 belonged to Abe Lincoln.......

:imao, we'll just never know...

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 01:30 am
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All this back and forth...lets stop the nonsense.  Hand over the pancakes.  Problem solved.  I'll hold on to it until we all learn to get along.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 02:42 am
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Louis Luu wrote:
All this back and forth...lets stop the nonsense.  Hand over the pancakes.  Problem solved.  I'll hold on to it until we all learn to get along.


No No No, I've got a better offer! I'll do that, AND pay for the shipping!:clap:

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 02:53 am
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I can share, one for you, rest for me.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 02:56 am
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Louis Luu wrote:
I can share, one for you, rest for me.
hey, I'd settle for that, providing it's that partly ribbed trunnion I'm looking for!:D

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 02:59 am
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Got that, need a fully ribbed trunnion...been looking for ages...okay...months.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 03:11 am
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I hope to find mine at fanfair!:clap:

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 07:04 am
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Frank, I got an outstanding 1899 Pancake from the Fanman in Dallas, Tx. Not totally 100% restored but close enough for me. Phone is (214) 826-7700. Give him a call and see what he has. And tell him that Fred from Seattle referred you. Need all the brownie points I can get toward my next purchase from him.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 01:28 pm
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After reading this thread, Frank has decided to look for anything but a GE pancake, preferrably with a good stator.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 04:50 pm
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Kim Frank wrote: After reading this thread, Frank has decided to look for anything but a GE pancake, preferrably with a good stator.
Kim, I have some Emerson fans with great stators...

Honestly, another pancake that I think looks cool is the 1907-1908 type with the strange looking motor that some here cal the "ugly motor". There is something totally neat the way these motors are made. Pancakes are great fans and fun to watch run!

Edit: Forgot how to spell "pancake"...Problem solved, Vic Tinney Gyms, Inc...

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 11:12 pm
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I wouldn't  wish an Emerson on Frank. We want him to be proud about the fans he collects, not hiding them in shame.....

I would agree with you about the cakes. I like them all, but the base switched models are my favorites. Here's that 'ol ugly smooth cast model from 1907 that was the Aiken raffle fan two years ago......

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 11:20 pm
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Fred Berry wrote:
Darrell Mabile wrote: Whats the average price of a not so rare ge pancake thats been fully restored??
I paid four grand for one of mine...no kidding. $350.00 is too low.


Four grand! :shock: holy pancake batman!

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 Posted: Mon Apr 4th, 2011 11:27 pm
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Kim Frank wrote:
I wouldn't  wish an Emerson on Frank. We want him to be proud about the fans he collects, not hiding them in shame.....

I would agree with you about the cakes. I like them all, but the base switched models are my favorites. Here's that 'ol ugly smooth cast model from 1907 that was the Aiken raffle fan two years ago......


Kim, Emerson's aren't bad in my book. I owned and restored a 6250-D a while back and it was a great fan until I plugged it in one day and it shorted out on me for some reason. I repainted it Metalic Blue and it looked great. I couldn't figure out how to remove the motor in it so I couldn't find out what went wrong so I got rid of it.

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 Posted: Tue Apr 5th, 2011 12:11 am
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NOOO! you shouldn't have gotten rid of it! someone could have fixed it, or at least parts...

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 Posted: Tue Apr 5th, 2011 12:34 am
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Adam Rohn wrote:
Kim, Emerson's are bad in my book. I owned one and I got rid of it.

Adam, I am so proud of you!!! If we can just get your restoration time on a GE fan under 5 years or 600 posts, I think you have the makings of a Fanman...........

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