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Thanks to Carl Parker, two new air circulators joined the ranks. The 4 of these had been swimming & were incredibly rusty & the rotor was rusted to the stator. It took a 4lb mallet to get the rotor out. Unfortunatley one motor was well beyond repair. Two good fans out of four & a third will come on line when I can get the blade welded.

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The second fan. These are both Bar Brook fans from Shreveport LA. The third fan was made by the same company only it has four propeller blades & the name was changed to Brook Line. They all have Sunlight Electric motors.

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Thanks for sharing photos.Love these circulators.Any chance for a close up photo of badge.If not no problem EH,Robert

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Stan,

Thanks for posting the pictures and as I mentioned on our phone conversation tonight I had one Brookline 2 blade cast aluminum propeller fan come in to Geoff's Fan Workshop this weekend and bought another Brookline there at the meet, but it has a 4 blade cast aluminum prop. Now here is the kicker.......I also bought a Southerner air circulator from Terry Fisher and also picked it up at Geoff's this weekend from Terry and it has the identical cage, 2 blade cast aluminum prop as as one of the Brooklines I mentioned and all of these had the same model Sunlight motors in them and they were all made in Shreveport, LA.......soos it seems that we have at least 3 companies names....Bar Brook, Brookline, and Southerner, on basically the same fans with exceptions of cage mounts, etc.

We might do a time line study if we can turn up any historical references .........where is Russ cause he seems to be one of the leading historians on the site.......
Speakin of which ...... I really want to thank Russ for sellin me the old Cook 2 blade cast aluminum prop pedestal air circulator as I also picked it up at Geoff's this last weekend thanks to Russ takin it to Bill Fanum's place in MN and then Bill bringin it to me at Geoff's. I put it together and a new plug end and plugged the old Cook in and you talk about blow air...... whew it blew papers off a work bench that was almost 30' away. In my opinion it is one of the ..... if not the..... most extreme, radically designed, & koolest art deco fans made. Terry Fisher has a Cook pedestal restored and it is about a 10 on the Wow-Scale. We compared notes on our fans while at Geoff's, but mine has a loooong ways to go to get it back like it was born. but it is kinda like eatin an elephant ..... you can do it one bite at a time.

Take care Stan and if you're ever up in my neck of the woods...... please throw out the anchor and we can talk old cast aluminum bladed air circulators.

Note: Larry Mong and Jim Kovar stopped at my shed this afternoon on their way home from Geoff's and we had a good old time talkin fans.

Over & Out ~ Dan

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Stan . . .

Very NICE addition.  That would probably automatically sweep the floors in your shop if you aimed it a little lower.

Great Looking Fan that would be welcome on any planet .

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Larry, I also bought a Bar Brook fan at Geoffs workshop, this week.
It has the Sunlight electric motor also. The pictures show it just like I bought it, I haven't had a chance to clean it up yet.

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Sorry Stan, I called you Larry. Here is a picture of the badge.

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Now those are some cool looking air circulators. Love 'em!

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Here’s a Brookline I spotted today.  I have a few more pics I will add later.  Really cool looking fan!

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Sorry about the sideways pics, never had this issue until the last couple times I posted

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Did you take pictures with a smart phone? If so, crop them a tiny bit and they will post correctly.

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Mark Behrend, I sent you a PM about the Brookline from Shreveport you posted in past, in the event you did not receive it. I realize it is a holiday, so please forgive my intrusion. I saw you were online on the new forum today. Let me know please if you did not receive it and I will try again.

Does anyone here own the Brookline circulator Mark took pictures of and posted here? If so, could you please share images of it? I am especially curious of the ceiling hung mount for this circulator. If you have a ceiling mount and can share a few images of the mount,  I would greatly appreciate this! Thanks in advance!












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I have one Russ, but one of the wings corroded off. They are the exact fan as the Bar Brook & use the same mountings. The ceiling mount is a large screw incased in rubber.

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Russ,

Here are 3 pictures that I took this afternoon of the fan that I referenced back in 2012 , but they aren't the best quality. If you need more than these I can probably get those later. It is currently stored under roof, but in an open storage that is outside and we have quite a bit of ice on the ground as of about 3 this afternoon.






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Bar-brook. : Shreveport Engineering Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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Thank you tons, Dan!  I have a start on mounting hardware that came with the fan. She has real nice chrome! Later!







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I had a Bar Brook window fan I sold to Zachary Yarnes which appeared to be made by R&M. It had the cast aluminum hub with the rotor being part of the hub.

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"Russ said: I am especially curious of the ceiling hung mount for this circulator. If you have a ceiling mount and can share a few images of the mount"

Russ ...... did the pictures I posted answer your question about the system used on my Brookline circulator to mount it to the ceiling? 

I think I have about 5 or so examples of the "Bar Brook, Brookline, and Southerner" circulators that were all made in Shreveport, Louisiana. In the near future, I will try to post pictures of 2 that I have restored and have hanging in my shed. They are a 2 blade and a 3 blade circulator..... one on the east side of my shed and the other on the west side, but I can't remember which of the 3 aforementioned companies made them.

Over & Out ~ Dan

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10-4 Dan. No more mystery. Thanks!

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Russ,

Here is one of my Bar-Brook circulators in as found condition with part of the mounting hardware and obviously you can enlarge any part of the mount you desire:













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Russ,

Here is one of my "Brookline" circulators in obviously unrestored condition:










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Is this threaded for down rod cast hanger still marketed?  If so, what is it called?

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Russ,

I have known them called several names such as: "adjustable yoke" mounting end, yoke end, clevis end, rod clevis, etc. I would try doing a google image search for some of these names and see what you turn up. If you can't find one with the threads you need such as 1/2" pipe, etc. holler at me via email and I may be able to make the transition threading adapter you need on my lathe or other fabricating adaptations that may get you the desired results.

Here is a one type of clevis yoke that is not exactly what you need, but you get the idea of what I quickly pulled off the web. Please keep me posted and I will try to help you out. ~ Dan



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Thanks. Clevis examples are offered with external and internal threading.

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"Russ said: Clevis examples are offered with external and internal threading."

Russ......... I am well aware of that and have been for over 60 years, but you asked about the "ceiling mount" for the circulator in question and I showed you the 2 examples of "original mounts" and they are of the 1/2" "internal pipe thread" type yoke clevis. You can mount it any way you like, but if I were you I would not go with external threaded clevis devices....... and I say that because of the ease of selecting your mounting shafting which was/can be simple 1/2" schedule 40 steel pipe cut and threaded to your desired length specifications. If you choose to go with an internal threaded yoke clevis and can not find one with 1/2" pipe threads then I can tell you what "transition fitting" from a particular yoke clevis to 1/2" pipe threads may be the most logical/appropriate.

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Dan that 3 winger is really fine! I have only seen one other. If you ever run into a spare 4 wing blade, let me know, I would sure like to complete mine.

Russ, I will look around, I did have an extra yoke laying around if I can locate it.

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Stan Adams wrote: Russ, I will look around, I did have an extra yoke laying around if I can locate it.

Thanks, Stan, you keep that yoke, you may need it, i'll figure something out. I will post pictures when I get it. It appears to be in very nice condition with 6 pole motor for an easy going 1140 RPM. It was up here in southeast Wisconsin, quite a distance from Shreveport. With all the circulators coming out of Chicago, makes one wonder why a circulator all the way from Louisiana.

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Dan Wyatt wrote: "Russ said: Clevis examples are offered with external and internal threading."

Russ......... I am well aware of that and have been for over 60 years.


Trust me when I say I am not questioning your knowledge, Dan. I was simply pointing it out for others. I like the sleek look of the external mounting. Thanks again for being so helpful. 

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Stan,

Thanks for the compliment. Here are a few pictures of the fans discussed that I have restored and hanging in my shed.














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Russ,

The chrome plated external thread yoke is attractive and you can obviously adapt the external thread to your hanging system, but I much prefer the original look of the internal threaded yoke clevis and the ease of then selecting the desired length of hanging shaft made from schedule 40 steel pipe.

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Russ, this is Bar-Brook’s original hangar, it was actually pretty neat. You unscrew the top half containing the screw isolated by rubber, mount it, then screw on the bottom half with the lead wire extending out the hole.

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Russ this is the yoke, 1/2” pipe thread.

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Here it is.

















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Wow, that one looks great Russ!

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Russ,

Out of only a handful of Bar-Brooks I have seen the one you just acquired is by far the best.

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This one appears to have remained on a ceiling or stored in a dry spot somewhere here in southeast Wisconsin. Thanks for the kind words. It even runs. 

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Stan & Russ,

I don't know how the Wiki section of the new web site is going to be organized, but if they will let us "author" a "Wiki" or "Type Study" about the Bar-Brook, Brookline, and Southerner cast aluminum bladed fans could the 2 of you and me and others that have knowledge to add ....... draft a document that would be the start of an informative narrative located in the Wiki section that many could possibly benefit from and that others could add information to as the years go by?

Dan ~ who strongly believes the Wiki/Type Study concept can be extremely helpful. Being an old high school shop teacher I really believe there is merit in having a well organized/catalogued repository of information, tools, storage, etc. that is made available to a group whatever the topics may be.

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Dan Wyatt wrote: Stan & Russ,

I don't know how the Wiki section of the new web site is going to be organized, but if they will let us "author" a "Wiki" or "Type Study" about the Bar-Brook, Brookline, and Southerner cast aluminum bladed fans.

Excluding myself, the only one I know on this website that could dig up details about these fans that would rock your socks is Mike Kearns. Mike not only has access to old newspaper that most, if not all of us don't have a clue exists on the web. Mike has archived a huge data base of information, catalogue pages, images, that pass most of us by on ebay, etc. Mike has a passion for circulators and archiving data pertaining to them. 


We do provide images he uses on past posts of his on specific companies and their product line.


And by the way, I am not patronizing him. I am simply stating the facts.


I do my thing, Steve Rockwell does his thing, Mike Kearns does his thing, Dan Wyatt does his thing, and so on and so forth. I post pictures I use from a number of members to do my thing. So it looks like in one way or another everybody is contributing to the benefit the website. By saving the old forum for future reference, old posts can be accessed by using key words by either the forum search engine or Google. 


If someone asked me to compose a reference section on this website and categorize all the fan jazz I have come across and posted through the number of years, I would politely decline and run. I wouldn't blame the webby to quit and run either if cornered to create such a data base. All said with due respect.

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Mike and I have talked about a Wiki.........he is absolutely amazing given the skill he has in researching various topics and I have known Steve Rockwell for going on 15 years or more as we go way back concerning the topics of old wood and metalworking machinery........he is well know as a Delta machinery expert in many circles and I am honored to call Steve a close friend.

Stan ....... what do you think about doing a bit of Wiki research on the 3 companies mentioned or are individuals from from our forum going to provide a lot of information in the Wiki section on the new web site or do you know how is it going to be structured?

I have spent a couple of hundred times the hours on the restoration and collection of old wood and metalworking machinery than fans/circulators and I will use a link to a site to illustrate my point concerning the value of a Wiki. The gentleman who owns this website is a good friend of mine and this wiki was put together by a lot of people that were organized in their approach to documenting and cataloging particular topics that are related to vintage wood and metalworking machinery. It is a breeeeeeze to use and a very powerful and important document to several hundred if not thousands of people that have used it over the years. It is an organic document that is constantly improving as someone adds to the content. It is a powerful and important series of documents and obviously names a Wiki....... among other forms of assistance.......it helps someone that lacks knowledge in a particular topic such as pouring babbit bearings, a document describing the year that a particular Delta machine was made according to it's serial number, electric drill restoration, etc. to gather educational information that is sometimes difficult to find in a simple search of a particular topic.

For anyone else interested in the subject of a Wiki I would like for you to take a look at the example I have mentioned as found here:
http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/

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Can anyone please confirm if the Brookline I own originally was a 3 speed fan with a Levolier switch?  I have a porcelain pull chain switch in mine wired for 2 speeds. Someone rewired this fan beyond the factory wiring.







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There is a lot of information for Bar-Brook/Brookline, I'll do my best to limit the information to that subject.          1937 - 

Brookline - 1937











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Mike,

Thanks for the interesting information on Bar-Brook and I enjoyed our conversation a few nights ago on Bar-Brook circulators and perhaps doing a bit of Wiki work on the subject in the future.

I was rather surprised to see that Bar-Brook made many of the components for their circulators by reading the following in the information that you posted: "All blades, guards, patented propellers, and all fittings for Bar-Brook products are manufactured in the company's own plant in Shreveport."

Perhaps this 16 page brochure has already been discussed, but in case it hasn't I found it on this web site:

https://archive.org/details/Bar-brook/mode/2up

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A newly uncovered Bar-Brook pedestal circulator. Note the blade is factory painted black, and the motor support yoke has an vibration-insulating rubber puck:

















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Can't get to it for a pic just yet but I have a 6-blade BB window fan I picked up at an estate sale years ago. Has the same front/hub-blade combo you mentioned; 2-speed, capacitor-start.
Bought it because it reminded me of the Hunter B28 my grandmother had in her house in OK City years ago; a very well-built fan, heavy sheet metal case and louvers. The BB is a lightweight in comparison...


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