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 Posted: Tue Apr 27th, 2021 09:15 pm
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Richard Daugird
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I bought this back in September. My uncle has a house in Arizona near the seller, so he picked it up for me. I had hoped for him to hand it off to my parents as they also have a house up there, and they could eventually bring it back to Texas as occasionally they drive their RV instead of flying. Unfortunately, my dad had a brain tumor. We got him back to Texas and they successfully removed it, but I don't know if he'll ever walk again on his own, let alone drive a 45' motor coach. So, my uncle called and said he was in Arizona for a week and did I want him to ship it. I originally only bought it because I didn't think I'd have to ship it, but here we are, hopefully it survives the trip.





My issues are:
It's a 220 fan, I'll need to do a bridge rectifier, VFD, or something to convert it to 110. Maybe it'll run on 110 anyway? Variable speed would also be nice.


How hard are these to take apart for paint/polish?


Has the wrong blades, need to find some, or have some made.


I'd really like to put it above my pool table, how can I possibly add a light kit?

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 Posted: Wed Apr 28th, 2021 04:06 am
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Alex Rushing
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Is this an AC or AC/DC CF, Richard?
If it is AC/DC, a full wave rectifier diode($0.50) would make it efficient enough to perform nicely on 120V(essentially making 120VDC).
If it is AC only, you'll want to find a step up voltage inverter from 120 to 240(110 to 220 really) and add a triac CF fan speed controller in the electrical plate to turn it on. Giving full speed range possible. This will work with a 120VDC rectified voltage OR 220/240AC step up.

A light kit will absolutely have to be installed above the fan. Perhaps locate a two-part separable canopy that you can drill two holes on each side for light arms. Then once the canopy is placed on it, you wire the light to the AUX ON/OFF on the newer Vari-Speed controllers. So when switched on, the light doesn't dim with the fan speed slow down. The lights above the fan will have a cool effect when running and won't be invasive to the valuable fan. Store the original canopy in a closet. Or wire the lights to the regular light switch.
The fan looks to just need a good cleaning and to be electrically gone through to check for any dangerous stuff.

Just a few ideas that might add up to $0.02 worth.
I don't know where to source the correct blades, but there are some CF guys who may know.

Last edited on Wed Apr 28th, 2021 04:08 am by Alex Rushing

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 Posted: Wed Apr 28th, 2021 03:00 pm
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Tom Dreesen
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These are 220 VDC fans.  A good full bridge rectifier will be fine and the fan will run only "half" speed, but this is fast enough.
They come apart easily.  You can polish the brass, but I personally wouldn't as it looks fine to me.


Unfortunately, you can't add lights to that hub.

Last edited on Wed Apr 28th, 2021 03:01 pm by Tom Dreesen

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Richard Daugird
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She’s running on 120v at .24 amps. No blades. Maybe someone already put a bridge rectifier on it?

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Tom Dreesen
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Brave man hooking up a DC fan to AC.

Chances are it has a full bridge rectifier if was used in the past post DC era.


It could be a old selenium rectifier.  A new solid state one is cheap.

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Richard Daugird
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My friend, a long time electric motor rebuilder, assured me I wouldn't hurt it to try.

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 Posted: Sun May 2nd, 2021 08:14 pm
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Steve Cunningham
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Dan Nguyễn has rewound these. I sold him mine. They are very heavy!

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 Posted: Mon May 3rd, 2021 10:41 am
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I did a full restoration on mine. 
I added a needle thrust bearing to lower friction. I have it on a KB speed control and run is between 120 and 60 volts, although it is a 250 volt fan. 

If you can’t see the bridge rectifier, it is not there.  Don’t run it on AC.

I believe it’s from the early 1900’s. 

 

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