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 Posted: Sat Jun 5th, 2021 11:31 pm
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Hello all, I went back to the estate sale today looking for the GE 3 start fan that I should have bought last time I was there....but alas it was gone.....But they did have this older GE fan I don't know anything about it other than it is not an oscillator bummer. Oh well it seams to be in great shape and has all it's parts and I got it cheaper than the GE 3 star. The Brass cage is in need of some work, brazing I guess. Any body know what year this is?

Thanks, and God bless. Did I score or what?

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 Posted: Sat Jun 5th, 2021 11:33 pm
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 Posted: Sat Jun 5th, 2021 11:34 pm
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 Posted: Sun Jun 6th, 2021 12:07 am
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A wonderful find, a 1906 GE pancake.   Does it run on all 5 speeds?

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 Posted: Sun Jun 6th, 2021 01:21 am
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Yeah-u did good.  Much better than a 2 or 3 star.

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 Posted: Sun Jun 6th, 2021 03:39 am
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I don't know a thing about "pancakes" I'm guessing that this is a "pancake fan? Still has original cord on it I guess. I'll test it out later. Blades spin freely. How do you know it's from 1906? Gee, that's two years before the model T ford!

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 Posted: Sun Jun 6th, 2021 04:23 am
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Mike Johansson wrote: I don't know a thing about "pancakes" How do you know it's from 1906? 
Lots of pancake info here.https://earlyfans.blogspot.com/2011/02/ge-pancake-1894-1908.html

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 Posted: Sun Jun 6th, 2021 11:42 am
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I sold parts to make a complete 1906 pancake to a member, that is a nice one!! Well done.

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 Posted: Mon Jun 7th, 2021 10:42 pm
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Yeah, God blessed me, not bad for $97. I may just replace the cord before I get to brave and test it out.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 9th, 2021 06:37 am
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Amazing find and $97 is a steal for that fan. I'd much rather have a pancake than a 3 star.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2021 05:08 am
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Well today I took the plunge and plugged it into my Variac and turned up the voltage till I reached 110 volts.
The fan started groaning and buzzing and then the blades tried to turn, I helped them along, must be very dirty I could only get a few revolution out and I didn't want to try and burn some thing out, so I turned it off, I'll do a full clean and disassembly before powering it back up.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2021 06:17 pm
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Take the set screw on top of the bearing out, put about 8 drops of Wd-40 in the hole, then give the blade a lot of turns by hand until it will move smoothly.  Next switch on the motor and see how she runs.  The WD should help loosen any hardened oils on the bearing.   After running for a short time the bearing, oil cup and felt wick, etc. should be thoroughly cleaned and the fan re-lubricated with non-detergent motor oil.  20 or 30 wt. are good.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 10th, 2021 06:47 pm
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Will do thank you.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 11th, 2021 02:11 am
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Well I took out the set screw and the blade set screw to pull the blades off for a cleaning....they will not come off for some reason I think some one over tightened the set screw and now there is a burr on the shaft. I tried a rod through the back of the motor and tapping on the blades base. No luck. I made a new cord, and that whole system of the switch and the coil is just super cool. But the bad news is. I removed the back of the motor and the studs are just in need or re threading. New nuts as well. But one of the wires broke off right at the cloth wrapping of the armature. Bummer.... Did it just become a parts fan?? Gosh, I hope not. I was on the fence about repainting it but since the base is in such poor condition paint wise I guess it will get new paint.

Well let me know if there is a trick to pull the blades and if new studs are available. Thanks, and God bless.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 11th, 2021 03:43 am
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GE pancakes are quite simple and, I think, easy to work on but...

Old wires and insulation can become very brittle so use great care in working around them.


Remover the oil cup, wick and spring and give the blade another try.


There are members who can rewind your motor if that is what is needed.


And, very important, GE fans for many years used a proprietary thread on screws and nuts, you won't find fasteners in the sizes they used in your hardware store.   Be careful so you don't bugger up the threads or "import" non-original thread specs to your fan.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 11th, 2021 10:52 pm
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I had already removed and disassembled  the front oil cup neat design. But the blade will not come off with  rod run from the back side of the motor and tapping it from behind. So it's soaking in penetrating oil right now.
I hope that I can unwind some of the covering on the armature and get a hold of the wire to re attach it to the out put.

The cage is a disaster as far as old solder joints on it yech! will need a complete rebuild.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 11th, 2021 11:22 pm
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Maybe the cage will come off if you put a dowel or screwdrive through the back of the motor and into any of the round holes in the rotor.   Then, with the blade set screw removed and the cage removed and using your hands, try rotating the blade with the rotor locked by the dowel or screwdriver and pull forward as you rotate the blade to see if that will help the blade come free.  A burr on the rotor shaft is a possibility.
Member Ted Kaczor does great work on GE cages, even makes new ones.   I think he can repair the poor workmanship on your cage.

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 Posted: Sat Jun 12th, 2021 12:18 am
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I don't know if this is possible, but maybe you could pull the back cover off the motor and then you might be able to lock the rotor better to twist the blade off. In every fan I've taken apart that had a stuck blade (about 60% of fans it seems like), the only way I have found that works invariably is to lock the rotor somehow and twist the blade. Pulling rarely or never works when the blade is stuck. If you take the back motor cover off and take a picture, I might be able to give you a more specific procedure to get the blade off, but I'm not familiar with that specific motor so I can't say anything for sure without a picture.

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 Posted: Sat Jun 12th, 2021 12:52 am
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It is super easy to lock the rotor with the back cover on and probably less easy with the cover off.

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