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 Posted: Wed Sep 15th, 2021 02:17 am
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Terry Fisher
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Most Lollipop fans I have seen have no information stamped on the information tag which covers the brushes. There are blank areas for the following information: Volts, Cycles and Serial Number.  I have a fan which has this information stamped to match the motor tag. So why is my fan different from the majority of Lollipop fans?

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 Posted: Wed Sep 15th, 2021 02:18 am
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 Posted: Wed Sep 15th, 2021 02:19 am
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Terry Fisher
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View of fan.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 15th, 2021 02:19 am
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 Posted: Wed Sep 15th, 2021 03:14 am
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I have noticed that most AC lollipop fans do not have any information stamped on the tag on the base pedestal but DC lollipops are stamped there.   I don't know why that is.

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Are there any AC pops with base tag information not stamped prior to serial # 15758?






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  My 1st wild guess is that you have an earlier issue than the ones with no info stamped on the neck plate.  The motor tag indicates that the motor came from Westinghouse. I wonder now if R&M at some point turned to their own motor castings since they were a foundry from the getgo , then posted their info on the motor tag only ???  instering point to study. :up:

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Cost saving step? Info. is already on the motor tag so why stamp another.

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Mine has blank fields as well, the switch was stamped 110-120 volts -a later modification?





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Steven P Dempsey wrote: Mine has blank fields as well, the switch was stamped 110-120 volts -a later modification?







What is your serial# on your motor tag? 

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Does ANYONE out there have an AC pop serial# lower than 15758? If so, does your base tag have STAMPINGS on it?

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Mine, s/n 58046, has no info stamped on the base tag, but full info on the motor tag. Seems to agree with the findings here.

~Sparky~

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Mine is 56984, no info stamped on base tag as well.

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Congrats, Terry.  It appears you have the earliest known AC pop known to survive.  :D  

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Hey Russ . . . . Surely not since I have never had the first of anything when it comes to fan collecting  :dude: :dude: :dude:

Would be nice if we had more responses from the Lollipop owners out there.

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Terry Fisher wrote: Would be nice if we had more responses from the Lollipop owners out there.

I agree. The other day I logged on and saw over 200 guests. I keep some things to myself, but much I share. It has come back to me 2 fold.

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Motor Tag - - What is the A after the Style No.?





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Steven P Dempsey
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SOrry, Style 105452 A

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Steven P Dempsey
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corrected info



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Here is my lollipop tag:



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Steven P Dempsey
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Wonder if the later Serial Numbers had the "A" suffix in the style number?

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29221 is the serial number of my 12" lollipop with 1893 patent motor tag.

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 Posted: Fri Sep 17th, 2021 02:36 am
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Terry Fisher
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Steve, 

Is information stamped on the base tag?

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Steven P Dempsey
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Nope, all blank.

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Terry Fisher wrote: Steve, 

Is information stamped on the base tag?
Terry, nothing stamped on the base tag on my lollipop.

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no "A" after Style N0. on my name plate. No info on base neck.

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Thanks to everyone who has posted their information.

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note some tags have that micro number in he lower left corner, others not

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"1054"

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Somewhere between these two serials the base tag stampings stopped. Anyone out there with a serial between Terry and Ted? 











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Steven P Dempsey
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Do we have any idea of total known surviving population? (Including VICTOR Branded)

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Here’s the tags on my Victor.  Base tag is different from the other brands.  

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Terry Fisher
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Hey Steve,

Please post a pic. of the badge.

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Terry Fisher
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Another view:

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No disrespect intended. The R&M pop is a ripoff with little doubt incorporating Eck's attempt to compete with Weyant who beat him of the starting blocks for an oscillating fan motor. Eck must of been a busy beaver between 1902 and 03 trying to conceive a means of fan motor oscillation to top Weyant. And he did. Fact Jack. Eck must of been so confident of his mechanical oscillator he even dumped his long term Goldmark & Wallace agency with the fans introduction in 03. 





Notice Eck and Weyant both missed out on the slip ring concept for full 360 degree spin in 02 and used a head wire base to motor.

















Weyant implemented the first brushed slip ring power transfer from base to motor in 03 for Shedd.








Robbins & Myers introduce the ripoff pop in 04 based on Eck/Weyant(Shedd) design.












































































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